Correct Trailer Tires?

Jerryda96

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My trailer came with P195/75 B14 rated at 1400 Lbs. I assume these are bias ply tires. I'm having trouble locating same. Is it a no-no to use radials on a boat trailer?
 

Lugnut36

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

Whats odd about yours is, the P is saying its a passenger vehicle tire. Trailer tires usually start with ST.<br /><br />A very big no no, the radials run at a lower pressure 30 -35 psi, the bias ply special use trailer tires can run up to 60 psi to carry the weight. Let me see what i can find for tires for you. If i find your size ill post again.
 

Lugnut36

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

http://store.yahoo.com/brutttires/cartrailtir.html <br /><br />Ok here you go i see 195/75 D14 for 40 bucks or 70 with rims. You can send then an email asking about the load rating it says LRC so it has a load rating of C How much of a load LRC can carry im not sure but they will tell you when you ask or you can probably find it somewhere The D14 means bias ply where your B14 is bias belt. Anyways I bought my 225/75 D15's from them I was absolutly satisfied with their service, tires came with rims fully inflated perfect condition shipping was only 20 dollars a tire. I put them on and a few weeks later i broke the axle right at the hub the wheel rubbed on the fender ( bending the heck out of it) and smoking like a son of a gun besides alittle cosmetic burn the tire ended up being perfectly fine to continue using.<br /><br />Here is also an article at championtrailers about trailer tires compared to passenger or truck. I checked out their tire pages and their prices are higher for my sized tire alone than what it cost me at the address i gave you above for the tire and the rim.<br /><br /> http://www.championtrailers.com/tire_art.html
 

Spidybot

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

Check your local rules and regulations first. Apart from that, radials are OK provided they cope with the load index.<br /><br />And they do provide better properties (which is why, by the way, they are used on cars).<br /><br />The LOAD INDEX is a numerical code associated with the maximum load a tyre can carry at the speed <br />indicated by its Speed Symbol under service conditions specified by E.T.R.O 1991, passenger car <br />tyres section 13, reproduced below. <br /><br />Note! Caravans and trailers: An increase of 10% over the load capacity quoted in the tables is <br />permitted when tyres are fitted to caravans and light trailers with a maximum operating speed <br />up to 100km/h.<br /> <br /><br />#60 is 250 kg, #93 is 650 kg, <br />#61 is 257 kg, #94 is 670 kg, <br />#62 is 265 kg, #95 is 390 kg, <br />#63 is 272 kg, #96 is 710 kg, <br />#64 is 280 kg, #97 is 730 kg, <br />#65 is 290 kg, #98 is 750 kg, <br />#66 is 300 kg, #99 is 775 kg, <br />#67 is 307 kg, #100 is 800 kg, <br />#68 is 315 kg, #101 is 825 kg, <br />#69 is 325 kg, #102 is 850 kg, <br />#70 is 335 kg, #103 is 875 kg, <br />#71 is 345 kg, #104 is 900 kg, <br />#72 is 355 kg, #105 is 925 kg, <br />#73 is 365 kg, #106 is 950 kg, <br />#74 is 375 kg, #107 is 975 kg, <br />#75 is 387 kg, #108 is 1000 kg, <br />#76 is 400 kg, #109 is 1030 kg, <br />#77 is 412 kg, #110 is 1060 kg, <br />#78 is 425 kg, #111 is 1090 kg,<br />#79 is 437 kg, #112 is 1120 kg,<br />#80 is 450 kg, #113 is 1150 kg,<br />#81 is 462 kg, #114 is 1180 kg,<br />#82 is 475 kg, #115 is 1215 kg, <br />#83 is 487 kg, #116 is 1250 kg, <br />#84 is 500 kg, #117 is 1285 kg, <br />#85 is 515 kg, #118 is 1320 kg, <br />#86 is 530 kg, #119 is 1360 kg, <br />#87 is 545 kg, #120 is 1400 kg, <br />#88 is 560 kg, #121 is 1450 kg, <br />#89 is 580 kg, #122 is 1500 kg,<br />#90 is 600 kg, #123 is 1550 kg,<br />#91 is 615 kg, #124 is 1600 kg,<br />#92 is 630 kg, #125 is 1650 kg,<br /><br />Weights are per tyre - calcultated as vehicle gross weight/number of tyres.<br /><br />Lbs to kg is x 0.4536<br /><br />Some tyres are available with higher load range under the spec 'Reinforced' (which normally is 6 ply while car/van tyres most often are 4 ply).<br /><br />Also note the speed codes:<br /><br />Letter Q 160 kmph or 99 mph <br />Letter S 180 kmph or 112 mph <br />Letter T 190 kmph or 118 mph <br />Letter U 200 kmph or 124 mph <br />Letter H 210 kmph or 130 mph <br />Letter V 240 kmph or 149 mph <br />Letter W 270 kmph or 167 mph <br />Letter Z over 270 kmph or over 167 mph<br /><br />The '195' specifies the tyre width, the '75' is the the profile heigth (as a % of the width), 'D' designates Diagonal (an R here means Radial) and 14 is the rim size in inches. There are also info on the max. pressure on the tyre side.<br /><br />Some designs are directional and therefore cannot be interchanged between sides (also a problem if carrying a spare).<br /><br />To make a perfect fit, the tyre width must match the rim width (within a fair range). On a car the profile should not be changed to keep gear ratio right (and speedometer). Ultra low profiles really improves handling but suffers in comfort as the amount of air between the road and the rim is reduced. A low tyre side copes with less absorbtion of bad road surfaces.<br /><br />On a trailer the profile should be chosen also with the handling in mind - you get a more straight run and better cornering on lower profiles yet you want the 'comfort' (protects the boat from shocks from a rough surface road).<br /><br />Depending on your needs, you may even consider trailer tyres with a M+S (Mud + Snow) rating as these tends to grip better on wet/slippery surfaces (the thing you want to avoid is a trailer wheel blocking as this can put the trailer out of control).
 

TxRiverRat

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

Here, read my story... Buyer beware...<br /><br />===============<br />I was on my way down to meet the crew in Waco for our "Superbowl" of waterskiing... Wham! a blowout on the trailer... <br /><br />I pull over and realize that I can't jack the trailer high enough to get the new tire on so I called AAA. They said "boat trailers were not covered under the basic coverage." Then they further explained they only covered RV's (self propelled and 5th wheels) under the "plus" coverage. I was told when I signed up, my boat trailer would be covered. So the tow truck guy jacks up the boat and the blocks he was using to get it higher kept giving way and dropping the trailer. When we thought it was stable, I removed the flat, and wham! it fell again, shooting bearing grease all over my shirt, shorts, face... Let me tell you - it tastes horrible! <br /><br />Finally we got the tire on and the bearing back on, but it took him 30 minutes worth of time trying to charge my credit card before I threw the guy two 20's and took off... <br /><br />I will be requesting AAA to refund me all money I paid for membership over the last 2 or 3 years...<br /><br />By the way, Boats U.S. has boat trailer coverage - and I highly recommend it... I also highly recommend buying a 2-ton floor jack and keep it in the tow vehicle at all times.<br /><br />======================<br /><br />On another note, i dragged the RiverRat over to the private lake last weekend and once I got there 55 miles later, I noticed a hug bubble in my other trailer tire! It was close to exploding! So, i took out my new 2-ton jack and changed it. <br /><br />However, here is the significance of the story: At this point, I noticed the tires were not rated to support the kind of weight that was being placed on them! I had been trailering on these tires for over 4 years!! I called Discount Tire and griped them out for selling me tires that a). could have cost me an accident/death and b.) were not intended for the intended use. I further argued that they were totally aware of the reason I purchaced the tires and that they sold them to me without regard to weight rating, etc...<br /><br />They agreed to give me full credit for the price of all the tires towards the purchase of new ones that are properly rated for trailering... Of course, if I had my way, they would giving me the new tires free, and paying for the wrecker expense the of my blowout. Then they would be praying I didn't sue them...<br /><br />======================
 

93evinrude

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

I personally use the Goodyear Marathon tires and I would recommend them to anyone looking for boat trailer tires.
 

Miss Rita

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

I have one additional comment. While it would be very convenient to have a two ton floor jack with you, it would be very hard to carry around all the time. <br /><br />I had a blowout on my trailer two years ago. I felt a little smug because I had my QuicklLift jack, an aluminum cam-shaped device that goes under the axle. Well, it didn't work, because the axle was too close to the ground. (my tire was pretty-much shredded, and any remnants were last seen in a low-earth orbit) I ended up using the jack from my Suburban. What a pain that was!<br /><br />My advice: get a low-cost scissor jack from a salvage yard, this will be easy to carry around and will work fine for the rare occasion it's needed.
 
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DJ

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

Miss Rita,<br /><br />Excellent point. Many OEM supplied jacks today are of the very low profile scissor type and are capable of lifting most boat axles.<br /><br />All,<br /><br />Check the jack in your tow vehicle and see if it will fit under the trailer axle with the tire/wheel removed-worst case scenario.
 

TxRiverRat

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

Difficult to carry a 2-ton floor jack? They are so small, I can't see this as a difficult thing - what are you towing the boat with, a Mazda miata or an Austin Mini-Cooper?<br /><br />Most of us have pickups or SUVs to tow with, and the 2-ton jack takes up a minimal amount of space (at best).... <br /><br />I highly recommend everyone to have the 2-ton jack - under 20 bucks at Wal-Mart... Between your car jack and the 2-ton jack, you should have no problem getting a tire changed...<br /><br />Mark
 

SCO

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

When I bought my boat, I trailered it some 300 miles, and later thought about and looked into the tires. I first weighed the boat at a local weigh station used by truckers, and found that the weights on the tires exceeded their rated capacities by almost 2 times. I immediately got a proper tire set, and found no radial that would do the job(single axle trailer). All tires have the rated load written on the sidewall.
 

BassMan283

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Re: Correct Trailer Tires?

SCO, you're saying then that your boat weighs more than 12,000 pounds?
 
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