Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

seapro17

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Howdy boys,

I have a 1989 Mercruiser 320 EFI sbc, built by Mercury Racing. Last summer I had a local machine shop rebuild it to the point of being a long block. They put the heads on. They're a reputable shop and do lots of boat motors for local marine dealers.

The engine sat on the stand for a year, now I'm finishing it to replace a motor that just went south on me on one of my other boats. I've built it all the way up and it's about ready to drop in. Just for good measure, I did a pressure test on the cooling system. First to 20 psi then 15 psi. It slowly leaks. By slowly, I'd say it drops about a 1 psi every 3 to 5 minutes. After about 20 minutes it's down about 5 or 10 pounds (starting at 15).

So i sprayed all around the engine with a very very soapy water. What I see is foam forming around the head gaskets. But it's weird, it's like the air is coming through the gasket, not on the top or the bottom. And it evenly leaks most of the way around, on both heads. And, I see the exact same thing on the thermostat gasket housing. It's like the gaskets are "breathing" some air.

Is this normal? Or should this thing hold pressure for hours? I find it hard to believe this shop did a crappy job sealing the heads on. Would sitting for a year matter? Or do the gaskets behave differently with water than the do air? I suppose I could just pull it all apart again, but Id rather not chase something that's not actually a problem.

thanks!
Stan
 

achris

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

Wow.... Gaskets shouldn't leak... You should be able to hold full pressure for days..... Silly question (but I have to ask), the bolts are tight?

Chris........
 

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

Well, boat cooling systems only flow water, they don't run under pressure unless they are closed cooling, and then not over 14 PSI which is the rated value of their caps. If I built it myself I think I'd check &/or retorque the heads and tstat. Or ask your motor builder what he says.
I wonder if the gaskets seal up when they heat cycle?
I don't know if it's a problem...but I'm not any expert on this stuff.
 

achris

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

Well, boat cooling systems only flow water, they don't run under pressure ....

Then why is there a water pressure sensor in the cooling system of my raw water cooled engine?????

Chris....
 

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

OK , I would always defer to you achris...but I can say my 89 doesn't measure water pressure. Must be one o them newfangled gizmo's!
 

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

Now that I think of it, I have also seen the go fast guys using water pressure gauges to make sure they get cooling water. Many of them are into shortened &/or raised drives or jack plated outboards for going extra fast. Many use low water pickups.
Hey, I said I ain't the final word.
OP, I think a torque wrench might be the play.
 

seapro17

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

Greetings,

I did retorque the heads, but no dice. I posted on a gofast forum that I frequent and one of the racing engine builders on there said basically "the pressure shouldn't drop that fast" and "not good for an engine to sit on the stand that long". So, better safe than sorry, it's a lot easier to pull those heads when it's on a stand.

So replacing head gaskets this weekend.
 

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

Check the head bolts as you remove them and make sure there was sealer on them.
 

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

Then why is there a water pressure sensor in the cooling system of my raw water cooled engine?????

Chris....

Ironically, I installed a 30 PSI (couldn't find a 15 PSI unit that matched the rest of the gauges) water pressure gauge. Fitting was drilled / tapped at the raw water inlet on thermostat housing of my raw water cooled 7.4 B1. At idle, shows around 3-4 PSI and when running at around 3000 RPM, shows 8-9 PSI of pressure. When flushing on trailer at idle, shows zip. Figure that's because of the lack of backpressure with no water around prop. So, yes there is water pressure on the cooling system of a raw water cooled system.

I see it as an early warning device. If pressure drops, probably a problem w/ pump or water intake. If pressure goes up, then a problem with manifold blockage may be coming. When I rebuilt the dash with all new gauges / carbon fiber overlay and removed the dead depth finder (have a Garmin 545-S now), I had a spare hole in dash and had to fill it with something somewhat usefull (and probably unique on an I/O) of a gauge. Was surprised to see that much pressure on the system.
 

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Re: Cooling system pressure test - do gaskets breath?

... I had a spare hole in dash and had to fill it with something somewhat useful (and probably unique on an I/O) of a gauge. Was surprised to see that much pressure on the system.

Not unique, sorry... Plenty running around here after my time in my shop... :D
 
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