Computer

clanton

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I have a Gateway P1 450 about 4 years old, with windows 98 2nd edition. Always some problem with this thing. Should I dump this computer in river and buy new, or repair it one more time. I have been looking at lap tops. I dont have a lot of space for computer. What do you IBoaters think?.
 

ebbtide176

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well sir, i'm typing this on my trusty dusty ole win98se 333Mhz Pentium right now. i think its worth fixin. if you do it yourself. if you've gotta sink $200 in it, then i don't know. its so much like talking cars... <br />as for me, if i didn't fix my own, then i'd go out and buy a middle-of-the-road speed system. something just a step or 2 below the top of the line system. you know, you get something that should keep you happy for @ 4yrs at least, yet you don't have to pay the celebrity prices.<br /><br />whats wrong with it?
 

Scoop

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Clanton, it depends on what's wrong with it and what you use it for. If you are doing mostly email and internet surfing, then you don't need a more powerful computer. If you are doing a lot MP3 ripping, burning CDs, gaming, graphics, then a more powerful system is probably better.<br /><br />Win 98SE is not a bad operating system.<br /><br />What is the problem with the PC?<br /><br />You can do the work yourself, but you have to follow some basic rules and ba careful. If the computer is unstable, then reloading it may be the only thing you need.
 

mellowyellow

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saw a brand new pc including monitor at wallyworld<br />for $498. it was a cheapo e-machine, but shows that<br />they are getting so cheap, it's almost not worth fixing <br />them anymore!<br />unless it's a REAL cheap fix.<br />good luck!<br />M.Y.
 

Scoop

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Watch the Wally World PCs, they were going to start selling a non-Windows OS. IF you want software compatability, this would be difficult. If you want to crusie the net and email, then it should not be a big problem. Just keep an eye out.
 

mellowyellow

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Scoop, they do have some REAL cheap pc's on their website that come preloaded with "LINDOWS" linux.<br />of course if you have a win 98 cd from your old puter.....<br />these ones are less than $200!<br />the one I mentioned was a windows/me box.<br />came with a cd burner too.
 

88spl

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Melloyello><br /> I saw that advert. on CNN.<br /> For 200 bucks.
 

roscoe

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No it isn't Intel, so what. Neither is AMD or Motorola. <br /><br />Just like Lindows or Linux is not Microsoft.<br /><br />These are all competitors competing for a slice of the big pie.<br /><br />VIA has been making the other chips for your motherboard, sound card, modem, etc, for years.I think they have been making processors for non-pc computing devices quite awhile too. But I'm sure there are some other members out there that are wired in to the details.
 

Scoop

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Just buyer beware. Know what you want out of your computer and buy accordingly. Don't expect much out of a cheap computer. It may be good for email and web surfing. I have seen many a low end computer. We even stopped supporting the low end ones from the big three manufacturers because of the low quality of the machine was not in line with the expectations of the end users. In a way they are like Force engines. sometimes people have them and they work fine especially if you know how to take care of them. Sometimes, you have just wasted your money.<br /><br />Me, I build my own computers because I need them to be bullet proof. I need to have the latest drivers, I need maximum up time with little down time. I built 2 computers for $2k. Each has dual CDs (Mine has a top of the line DVD and CD-R), mid range video card, 10/100 network card, sound card (Ok, I got a better one that the kid), Top of the line quiet power supply, Extra cooling fans that are extra quiet, lots of memory, a descent size hard drive with huge on board cache, top quality motherboard, excellent case that is easy to get into and service with plenty of bays, Windows XP Professional. I never want to have a problem. I work with computers all day and need mine at home to work all the time. My wife and I need it to work from home to meet our work deadlines.<br /><br />Could I have gotten away a lot cheaper? Yes, but I would have more chances to have more problems, less stability, and less compatibility. I hand picked each component to provide the best service and life expectancy.<br /><br />I replaced a P133 and a 486/100 each of which I also built. I had to replace the hard drive in one of them under warranty 6 years I had run them. That is it. <br /><br />My advice is to dot he following when buying a computer.<br /><br />1. Analyze what you are going to use it for. Email, web surfing, ripping MP3s, listening to music, watching TV, recording TV, as a music recording studio, word processing, spreadsheets, home finance, video disk creation, photo processing image manipulation, and game playing.<br /><br />2. Be realistic on how often and how long you can be without it if it needs to be fixed. Remember it will go out when you are in the middle of something.<br /><br />3. If you are just using, email, surfing the web writing letters, and doing your home finances, then you don't need a powerful expensive computer<br /><br />4. If you want to do MP3 ripping, a good processing speed, memory and a fast CD drive would be good. If you want make your own CDs, then a CD-R would be good. Don't forget a large hard drive. Although MP3 pro files are smaller, they take longer to rip so a good faster processor, memory and CD drive are goos things to have.<br /><br />5. Photo, manipulation, game playing, video making etc. Get a good computer. Spend the money and save the time.<br /><br />6. Can get by without computer for weeks. Cheap is fine, just get the extended warranty.<br /><br />7. Can't do without it. Get a better computer and the in home service or buy from a local company that has good service even if its drop off. Our clients wait usually get their computers in 2 days. Bring in one day, fixed the end of the next day or by noon the following day depending on parts.<br /><br />8. Backup. If you have any data you don't want to lose. By a backup device. Tape player, CD-rewriter etc. Test by doing a restore of random files to make sure your back is working well. do this regularly.<br /><br />9. Virus protection. I have removed virus' from people Doctoral dissertation diskettes. (by the way, never store anything long term on diskettes.<br /><br />10. Old computers. Look at the above and figure out the cost to repair your system vs what your needs are. If you just do email and web surf, then $$200 for the repair of a P450 may be ok if you are not likely to need other repairs. It is a tough decision. If you have a good repair tech, they will tell you if they think it is worth it, but you have to remember that really good repair techs can be few and far between. When you find one, stick with them.
 

ebbtide176

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and laptops are very nice to have. you could get wireless network card and hub to match, so you could move around in the home easily, sit on the couch, whatever. the batteries usually don't last, same as everything else, but you could use pwr supply to house outlets. <br />a laptop will not be as easily/cheaply repaired/upgraded. shop around, ask questions, find one with upgradability options. <br />as for me, nope, don't own one. don't need that much portability for the price to pay, since i don't do business at home. if i did get one, it'd probably be a used one under $500.<br />-just my thoughts
 

clanton

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Scoop, who are the big three?<br /><br /> Thanks everyone for the great replys, I have decided to try and nurse the one I have for one more year. I have 2 boats projects starting in about 2 weeks, and time/money will go toward boats.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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While we are on this subject, are there anyway to get a deleted e-mail back? I'm talking about one that has been deleted from the deleted file. :D
 

Scoop

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Clanton, the big three are Hewlett Packard, Compaq and IBM. As most of you know, Compaq and Hewlett Packard merged. They will still have HP and Compaq PCs in the retail space for a while. <br /><br />Dell deals with the public fairly well, but they are a pain in the butt for us as a servicer. My techs don't mind working on them, but trying to get the right parts and information from them is next to impossible. My techs do nothing but swear because they can't efficiently get answers to take care of their clients. Dell is better to deal with directly as an end user.<br /><br />SBN, if you are using regular Outlook and your email is stored on the exchange server, then you can click on the deleted folder, then click on recover deleted items under the tools menu above. If this option does not appear, or the item has been removed from the deleted items folder for more than 7 days, or you are using Outlook express, then you are out of luck. If you use different email program, then I do not know.
 

mellowyellow

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SBN, if these e-mails are important enough to you,<br />there are companies that specialize in data retrieval.<br />not sure if they can find the e-mails, but it's<br />worth a try IMHO. maybe this bump will get a<br />response from some one who knows for sure.<br />the info.you want is out in cyberspace somewhere.<br />finding it is a different matter.
 
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