Chrysler RPM problems

wswaneyw

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Took my 120hp chrysler out today for the first time to open it up. I have only been able to go on no-wake lakes so far so i was really excited to hit it hard today. Pushed off the dock, idled out for a few minutes and then pushed it wot. It sputtered for a while and pushed the nose way up. I had my grandfather with me so I had him steer while i sat up on the nose to try to get it to plane. After a bit of sputtering, it finally came up on plane. However, my max rpms, no matter what i did, were right around 4000. Pushed the boat (if my speedometer is correct) right around 25 - 30 mph. It is a 17 8" flat bottom V boat. I was expecting it to hit around 45- 55 mph pretty easily. I checked all the fuel lines, and change the spark plugs. I also ran a can of decarbonizer thru the motor. Took it out again this evening with the wife and kids and had the same exact problem,,, difference this time, I had more weight in the boat. It just doesnt seem to want to spin fast enough. I think i am flooding the motor out since it wont come up on plane on WOT. I did notice that when i turned the boat around to the left,,, if i turned it hard enough, the prop would slip and rev really high. I didnt get a chance to try it going to the right. Do i need to put a whale fin on the lower unit,,, or change pitch on the prop? I did take the prop off while i ran the decarbonizer thru it and it would rev as high as I could stand to let it go. Hopefully this is and easy fix,,, this project is wearing me out. Any help would be great. Thanks... It is a 17 pitch prop on it now.
 

sony2001

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

You could be running on three cylinders. Check the spark on each cylinder. :cool:
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Thanks,,,, I do need to pull the plugs out and check for spark,,, I pulled the plugs when i got home tonight,, I expected them to look the same, they didnt,,, as i recall,, one looked awfull wet. I will check it out
 

boating brad

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

after you do that you still might have to "go fishing". :D
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Do you think i have bigger problems Catfish?
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Pulled plugs, checked for spark at each plug and all is well. I may have found my problem by accident. I read another post about angles of the outboard and stop pin trim position. My pin was in the highest trim hole possible. My thinkings are that i was trying to get too much of the boat out of the water. My trim cylinders never were fully retracted with the pin in the last hole. I have moved the pin to the middle hole and my cav plate is now even (level) with the bottom of the boat. I am hoping this will help. At least i will have trim adjustments now. Will post results.
 

Terry H

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

wswaneyw...with a 17 pitch prop on that bugger you should have been overreving, especially if you trimmed up too far...you may have a fuel delivery problem. A compression test will tell you an idea of the mechanical condition of motor.<br />Sounds like you are running a little dodgy on one or two cylinders. Could be a buggered up carb, for example float level, high speed jet plugged. I assume it's idling fine, so when you need to deliver lots of fuel to that gashog it aint there...just a Thought
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

I repositioned my tilt limit pins to let the motor go down farther and took it to the lake. It planed out a little faster however my rpms stayed a bit above 4100. I did notice a speed change by trimming the motor, but it just wont go past 4000 or so rpms. My pitch on my prop is a 19. I thought it was 17. My thinkings are that the pitch is way to high and i cant get enough rpms out of it to go above 4000. In a tank with the prop off i can hit 5500 and higher pretty easily, so i think the carbs and spark are working fine. Does anyone think i should drop down in prop pitch or should i look into other areas.?
 

Terry H

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

I would think that prop pitch is about right...you should be getting well over 5000rpm with that boat motor setup...I would check for a lean condition before you fry a piston...just a Thought
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Thought,,,, first of all, thanks for your time. I pulled my plugs after getting out of the water and they are wet. Is my thinking wrong that when i put it to WOT that the prop just wont spin fast enough to let my rpms come up? I can take the prop off and put her in gear and rev as high as i want to go without a sputter. Is the fuel input the same with the prop on or off at WOT? I saw a post on a 130 evinrude or yamaha that the guy was running a 15 pitch prop,,,, shouldnt that thing just spin like crazy with that size motor? I did do a spark test and i am getting good spark on all cylinders/plugs/ and wires. Once again,,, thanks for your time
 

boating brad

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

do your checks spark, fuel, compression. if its hitting on all cylinders your going to need a 15pitch, in my opinion your overproped, but i really dont know how it runs.
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Thanks Catfish,,,, I do have to ad that it wants to die at idle if i dont put it in high idle during startup. I am going to put a fuel pump kit on it to see if that helps. Once i put it in gear it will idle fine, just out of gear it wants to die. I think i have found a 15 pitch on ebay for 20.00. I think that may be a quick troubleshooting fix. I just feel that the boat is heavy as can be and just cant get enough rpms to get it on plane and get some speed out of it. Is my thinking correct that I should hit 45-50MPH pretty easily with this motor if all is running well? I am interested in your opinions. Thanks
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Along with the weight of the boat alone,,, add 22 gallons of gas to that ,,,, i have alot of weight.
 

boating brad

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

ask and you shall recieve. my opinion is your speed goal is high, im thinking that a 120 "chrysler would push you at best 42mph. keeping in mind that the chrysler is not kickin out 120hp at the prop probably more like 100hp. let us know how it does!
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Thanks again,,,, So you think the 15 pitch would be a good shot? The prop thats on it now is 12" in diameter. The one i am looking at is 13 1/8". Is it ok to go bigger in diameter?
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

Catfish,,, thanks for the time and input,,, I will be sure to pass on my findings.. Thanks again.
 

wswaneyw

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Re: Chrysler RPM problems

purchased a new 17 pitch and a used 15 pitch. Will try both and update on findings. Thanks again
 
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