Chernobyl II

62_Kiwi

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There's some scary stuff going on in the world; <br /><br />How do you reckon they will fix the old "sarcophagus" - cover it over with a new one ? <br /><br />Sounds like a job for Homer Simpson :eek: <br /><br />
<br />Russian scientist warns of new Chernobyl catastrophe <br /> <br />28.04.05 1.00pm<br />By Andrew Osborn<br /><br /> <br />MOSCOW - A leading Russian scientist has claimed that the sarcophagus entombing Chernobyl's nuclear reactor number four is dangerously degraded and warned that its collapse could cause a catastrophe on the same scale as the original accident almost 20 years ago. <br /><br />Professor Alexei Yablokov, President of the Centre for Russian Environmental Policy, said the concrete and metal sarcophagus was riven with cracks, was already leaking radiation and was at risk of collapse unless serious repairs were undertaken and work on a replacement shell urgently begun. <br /><br />"If it collapses, there will be no explosion, as this is not a bomb, but a pillar of dust containing irradiated particles will shoot 1.5 kilometres into the air and will be spread by the wind. This could be comparable in its scale with the disaster itself." <br /><br />Depending on which way the wind is blowing, Russia or Belarus would bear the brunt of such a dust cloud. Ukraine, where Chernobyl is located, would also be badly affected. <br /><br />The sarcophagus is designed to literally keep a lid on what is left of the nuclear reactor that exploded with such dire consequences during an unauthorised test in April 1986 and is supposed to stop the mass of unspent nuclear fuel that lies beneath from entering the atmosphere. <br /><br />It is estimated that only between three and fifteen per cent of that fuel actually escaped during the explosion meaning that most of it is still trapped inside. <br /><br />Dr Yablokov, a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and a one-time adviser to former Russian President Boris Yeltsin, said that nuclear reactions were actually taking place - spontaneously - inside the sarcophagus as rain and snow fell onto the unspent fuel through the cracks in the decaying shell. <br /><br />He told Russian media that experts had repeatedly seen a luminescence characteristic of chain reactions inside the giant building. <br /><br />"Who could predict what might happen if hundreds of thousands of tonnes of concrete, which was hastily poured 19 years ago, tumbled down on the ruined nuclear reactor?" <br /><br />His gloomy assessment corroborates that of the Ukrainian officials who manage the decommissioned power plant as well as that of other environmentalists. <br /><br />Earlier this year Julia Marusych, Head of Information at Chernobyl, admitted to Russian TV that the sarcophagus was in an appalling state. She said: "The construction is unstable, unsafe and does not meet any safety requirements." <br /><br />The sarcophagus was hastily thrown together in the immediate aftermath of the explosion as a desperate attempt to contain what had already become the world's worst nuclear accident. <br /><br />Many of the construction workers who toiled on it have since died of cancer and the sarcophagus itself began showing signs of serious stress in the early 1990s. <br /><br />Built to last fifty years, experts were forced to reduce its recommended lifespan to just twenty years meaning that it is due for replacement in 2006. Some repair work was carried out earlier this year but the going is slow due to the fact that construction workers can only be in its vicinity for short periods because of the high levels of radiation. <br /><br />Sceptics claim that warnings about its deterioration are designed to persuade Western donors to stump up the one billion US dollar bill for a new sarcophagus but scientists have repeatedly warned that the world ignores Chernobyl at its own peril. <br /><br />A donors' conference is due to take place in London on May 12 at which the Ukrainian government hopes to raise $300m for a new sarcophagus. That task has been complicated, however, by recent revelations that private firms have embezzled some $185m of Chernobyl money, some of which was earmarked for a new shelter. <br /><br />- INDEPENDENT <br /><br />
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10122759
 

Tinkerer

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Every cloud has a silver lining.<br /><br />1. Identify unique signature of Chernobyl nuclear material.<br /><br />2. Develop tracker which picks up minute quantities of Chernobyl nuclear material, and nothing else, from as far away as earth orbit satellites.<br /><br />3. With Russian co-operation, carefully leak to a few terrorist sources that Russians are unable to fix Chernobyl and will allow anybody to take whatever they can carry, as long as they keep it secret. <br /><br />4. Avoid terrorist stampede routes to Chernobyl.<br /><br />5. Track carriers from the moment they leave Chernobyl with their load.<br /><br />6. When satisfied tracks lead to all desired targets, press "Fire" and "Launch" buttons.<br /><br />7. Erect signs with "You can run but you can't hide" in all relevant languages on all smoking ruins.<br /><br />8. Apologise for mess.<br /><br />9. Promise not to do it again as long as nobody else starts it.
 

roscoe

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heyttown, good stuff.<br />I saw this a while ago, <br />But she has added more new photos and info.<br /><br />Thanks for the update.
 

Bob in Calif.

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WOW!!!...This sounds like a great job for Calipornia's death row inmates. :D <br /><br />...Bob in Calif...
 

62_Kiwi

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Thanks for the link Heytown, that's very sobering.<br /><br />
<br />Radiation will stay in the Chernobyl area for the next 48.000 years, but humans may begin repopulating the area in about 600 years - give or take three centuries.<br />
 

eeboater

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I just read through that whole website. I'm simply amazed. Ghost-towns everywhere.
 

90skichallenger

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That was very interesting. I really had no idea of the actual extent of the chernobyl tragedy. Kinda gives you the shivers.
 

heyttown

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Ive worked at a few Nuclear plants and have been in the containment vessel that surrounds the reactor,and have been in some not so nice places....I have to say, with the steps the NRC puts into place to do a simple task, I fealt completely safe while I was there,and wouldnt hesitate to work there again.....Im not saying that an accident cant happen, look at Davis Besse here outside of Toledo with their rusty reactor head that the rust almost ate completely through the head,if that would have exploded who knows how bad it could have been......But at the Nuke plant I was at,it was almost like you couldnt sneeze without getting approval from the higher ups.<br />I would think the technology they have now,Nuke plants are very safe,and hopefully will remain that way.<br /><br />Just in today's paper it was stated that Bush wants to build more nuclear plants.Cleanest energy/electricity you can make.
 

Realgun

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We have a way of doing nuclear now that we did not have in the past. It is safer too. However anytime somebody wants to build 1 there a nut in the crowd that thinks its a Bomb. I would like to tell the nut to duck and cover you'll be safe. :)
 

beniam

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All stuctures corrode, crack or decay in time. Concrete stuctures have a surprisingly short lifespan unless protected from water, acid and stress. Steel lasts longer, but only decades in a corrosive atmosphere. The sarcophocus is not a box, and will leak.<br />Had an engineering professor reassure me once about nuclear power plant domes. Before 3 Mile Island and Chernoble. <br />Overheating will melt and crack any stucture. <br />Be happy, boat lots and enjoy life. Batavier
 
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