Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

jtexas

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Is it the handle? the action? the tip?<br />Why wouldn't a Crankbait Rod be a good Worm Rod?<br /><br />What about a Popping Rod?<br /><br />I feel so ignorant sometimes!<br /><br />thanks,<br />jtw
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Sometimes, Im not only "LubeDude", but "BassDude", also. :p There are plenty of other Bass Guys here also that could answer this question though.<br /><br />A crankbait rod is almost as far from a "Good" worm rod as you are going to get. They are a slower taper rod and they are normally a fiberglass composit rather than a graphite. They are about 7' in length also. The reason for this is that you will not lose so many fish because you will not put as much preasure on the fish. Crankbait hooked fish are many times not hooked well, and there is the wieght of the bait that lets them shake it lose easier. You really dont need the sensitivity of graphite and your hook set dosent need to be as hard as they normally hook themselves. I normally just pull back and start reeling. Use mono line also, it acts like a shock absorber and dont horse the bas anymore than you have to. I just broke one of these rules recently in that I bought a graphite rod to use for cranking, but it is a very limber slow taper rod and it works great, I got it at WalMart. Its a cherrywood edition, 7' Meadium and was only $18.97. It works great.<br /><br />There, hope this helps.
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Thanks Bassdude, actually I could identify a worm rod, but just wasn't sure what was meant by "crankbait rod." I don't have space in the boat for a specialized rod for every application even if I had the spending authority. ;) <br /><br />Drop-shot rods, finesse rods, spinnerbait rods, MY rods, rodbolt rods, (ya I made up the last two)anybody know of any good articles out there that define all these?<br /><br /> :)
 

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Basically you can just think about what you are going to do and where you are fishing and do a little calculating, and figure it out.<br /><br />If you are fishing in an area where you have to move the fish out quickly, adjust the strenth, lenth and line wieght accordingly. For instance, you wouldnt want 6# line, a whimpy 5' noodle rod if you are fishing in heavy cover, and you dont need a 7.5' Fipping stick with 25# line for finesse fishing.<br /><br />If I have someone else in my boat with me, and I usually do, I have a minimum of 8 rods in the boat, and I swear, 100#s of tackle.
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Originally posted by LubeDude:<br /> Sometimes, Im not only "LubeDude", but "BassDude", also. :p There are plenty of other Bass Guys here also that could answer this question though.<br /><br />A crankbait rod is almost as far from a "Good" worm rod as you are going to get. They are a slower taper rod and they are normally a fiberglass composit rather than a graphite. They are about 7' in length also. The reason for this is that you will not lose so many fish because you will not put as much preasure on the fish. Crankbait hooked fish are many times not hooked well, and there is the wieght of the bait that lets them shake it lose easier. You really dont need the sensitivity of graphite and your hook set dosent need to be as hard as they normally hook themselves. I normally just pull back and start reeling. Use mono line also, it acts like a shock absorber and dont horse the bas anymore than you have to. I just broke one of these rules recently in that I bought a graphite rod to use for cranking, but it is a very limber slow taper rod and it works great, I got it at WalMart. Its a cherrywood edition, 7' Meadium and was only $18.97. It works great.<br /><br />There, hope this helps.
Lubedude I am gonna shoot couple of holes in your thoughts,mind you I am just an average fisherman, and this is JMHO. First off any rod I don't care what your using it for should have as much sensitivity as possible. Graphite makes for a wonderful cranking rod if you ask me. My favorite cranking rod is a 6'6" graphite. I set the hook like a mad man weather its crank baits or jigs or whatever, cross their eyes or rip their lips off,whatever comes first. Maybe thats why your losing a few fish. :p <br />I do agree that mono makes for a decent line when cranking. But I am stuck on braid for everything anymore. Works for me. <br /><br />Bottom line is this, You can catch fish on any damn rod out there if your in the right place and have the right presentation. People think just because they buy a rod that say it is a crankbait rig that it is all they need to catch fish with crankbaits<br /><br />I would say the only rod that I Personaly need to make sure is suited to my needs when bassin is a worm rod. It needs to be stiff and high quality graphite. To get those instant hook sets when the stuff hits the fan,. :cool: Peace <br /><br />Tightlines Flathead
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Originally posted by Flahthead:<br />Lubedude I am gonna shoot couple of holes in your thoughts.<br /><br />Flathead
:D :D Well, I dont have a problem with that, Fishing has always been a "Different strokes for different folks" Kind of a deal. I was just giving the recommended procedure guidelines.<br /><br />Also, I dont lose many fish, no more than anyone else while cranking. Also, like I said, Im using a Graphite rod for cranking also, however, even though I like some of the braids, I dont like it for cranking. I use the braids for spinnerbaiting, jigging, and my flipping stick. Sure is a bit*h to break off 35# Braid when you get hung in the brush though :eek: :D :D
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Crankbait rods got to be limber or you cant feel the motion in the ocean or lake or whatever :p. You wouldnt want to chuck cranks with your 7'6" heavy action ment for flippin heavy cover. Im using a graphite st. Croix avid and love it! Its a real whip when using cranks or soft plastic jerkbaits. Fiberglass is more forgiving and breaks down as time goes one. Just find a rod with a long taper and is soft and you should be alright.
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Flathead [/quote] Sure is a bit*h to break off 35# Braid when you get hung in the brush though :eek: :D :D [/QB][/quote]<br /><br /><br />Hey LD I have found that a good quality pair of electricians nippers work great for the braids.
 

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I wrapped the line around my reel one time and backed up with the trolling motor and pulled a log clear off the bank with 35# Braid. Yes, now its clipper time for sure. Dang that stuff is strong. :eek: :eek:
 

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Crankbait rods got to be limber or you cant feel the motion in the ocean or lake or whatever <br /><br />Actually thats not it at all, if you really wanted the "feel", you would want the stiffer graphite rod and braided line. Its all about the shock absorbing action. Many times, you have the fish hooked on the soft tissue, or even on the outside of the mouth and body. Horsing the fish will lose it for you in a hurry. Not a problem if fishing for fun, but if its for money, it can ruin your day.
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

a stiff rod and braid dont shock absorb. yes you can feel a bite better ie worm fishing or jig fishing but braid has no stretch to "shock absorb" as with a stiff rod. Fishing with a broom stick and rope will get you nowhere :p . look at the crankbait series of rods from loomis croix or any other manu lamiglass fiberglass rods are as soft as they come. Sure braid is nice due to the small diameter, thus letting the bait get down faster and deeper for the most part but its not forgiving.
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Originally posted by skeeterboy:<br /> a stiff rod and braid dont shock absorb.
Wait a minute, I think we are on different planets. :confused: <br /><br />I never advocated using a braided line and stiff rods for crankin. :confused: <br /><br />Re-read my posts. :eek:
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

haha sorry i must be on another planet :D i was so excited about getting my new shimano symetre reel that our mess might have gotten crossed.
 

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:p Ya had me going there for awhile. :p
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

Bass Pro makes an outstanding cranking rod. I have two of them myself. The main thing that sets a cranking rod apart from a worm rod is like LubeDude said. They are made with more fiberglass in them to do a couple of things. One it lets you reel a deep bait like a Norman DD22 all day without any arm fatigue. Two it also lets the bait work at a more desirable action to the fish(by letting the bait wobble wider). Three it lets the fish get hooked somewhat better. No matter what rod or line you will always lose some fish on a crankbait.
 

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Re: Casting Rod Confusion: What's a Crankbait Rod?

ive been using the bass pro shop fiberglass rod for 2 years now went back and bouht another last month $19.00 i like the fiberglasss for crankin but worm and carolina rigs the graphite in 7' and 7'6'.works best around here.and im a firm beleiver in the braids the only thing that i dont like is when your rat fishing or flipping heavy cover with a good fish on the line sometimes burries up in the spool.ive been using the furocarbon on my worm rod and it seems ive been getting more bites latley any other comments out there about the flurocarbons?
 
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