Can't open my glovebox

bds85466

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Yes I've tried the correct key. Tumblers seem to be stuck. I put the key in, turn it until it gets resistance and then I cannot turn it any further. I've tried shaking it, trying different pressures etc. I obviously don't want to break the key off in it or drill through it if I don't have to. Anyone on here a locksmith or have some ideas? Any sort of penetrant or something similar that may get this thing un-stuck?
 

QC

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

Picture?
 

bds85466

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

Yeah I'll get a few when I get home from work (about 5pm CST)
 

crb478

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

Try soaking it with wd 40 or PB blaster to see if they will loosen up.
 

ziggy

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

if the key turns at all, it's usually not the tumblers. a key does two things. when inserted, it lines up the tumblers proper so the cylinder can rotate. the key also gives ya a handle to rotate it with. so, like i say, if it turns at all, it most likely ain't the tumblers, specially if it turns free then get's caught. most likely the cam on the back that's hanging somewhere. misaligned with the strike, caught on stuff inside the box. rattleing it, the box, the lock, the lid, may free it.
go ahead and lub thru the key hole too. i like triflow. lub thru the keyhole won't help if the cams hanging up, but it won't hurt either....

lock some vise grips on the key. be sure ya got two keys as yer gettin ready to attempt force. with the pliers on it. ya can turn it harder. just use much judgement as ya can shear the head of the key right off. if ya do, broke keys can be extracted, but it's better to not shear it. just keep working with it. lub, force with judgement, rattleing the whole box, lock, lid etc.... worse case, ya gotta drill it if it won't cooperate. good thing is, they is cheap locks and genearlly a replacement lock from the hardware store will suffice. if ya do drill it. try to keep the cam on the back intact as that may be specific to your box. like in not available short of the oem, which may or may not be available. then it's a punt. whatever it takes to make it work....
ya might also try prying the lid open somehow. on many cheap cam locks, the cam ain't that strong. ya pry on the lid and the cam will bend letting ya open the box a little. perhaps letting ya manipulate it thru the slot....sometimes it'll even open, usually just bending the cam which can be straightened at that point. if it breaks, back to punt to fix it and make it work......
at this point, from yer discription, my vote goes to something inside the box that's preventing rotation....... good luck....
 

txmntman

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

I agree with Ziggy. If it were me, I would start off with lube (WD 40, Silicone, or graphite.....but might not want to mix the lubes), and then work the lock. I also suspect something inside the box is keeping it from turning....
 

bds85466

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

All wise points. Yes I agree that it's not the "tumblers" and that it is the lever/cam in the rear probably egaging with something it's not supposed to. The key goes in vertically, I can then turn it with zero resistance until it engages the hitch at about 120 degrees.

Where can I get triflow?

I'll make a copy of the key first, and then try force with wiggling and lube. If nothing, or a break, how would I drill it through? What sort of bit? Where to drill?

The box itself is empty so I'd guess that it's the cam/lever that's not getting freed from the slot.
 

Silvertip

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

Forget drilling. If something is caught inside the box drilling the tumbler will still not free it. First make sure the tumber is free to turn which it apparently is. If the key goes in vertically and it turns 120 degrees which is well past 90 degrees, the cam should be free and door should open. It may be that the cam came loose from the back of the lock and although the lock rotates, the cam may not. If you want to drill, drill through the bottom of the box so you can stick a wire up inside to jiggle stuff loose or at least see inside with a small pen light. If that doesn't work, use a hole saw to cut a larger hole. Get the box open. remove the entire thing from the console and repair the hole.
 

arboldt

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

If you're *sure* the box is empty, then the cam couldn't be hitting anything inside it. In that case, it's most likely binding on the slot or plate it's supposed to engage. Try pushing or pulling on the cover as you turn to see if you can get the cam to clear. Or it might be angled to that slot or plate, so try gently twisting, pulling to one side or the other. As you turn the key to disengage the cam, try to get your fingers to be very sensitive to feel what's going on outside of your vision.

Picture the cam against a strike plate. Does it turn free then feel like it hits a wall? Turn free then quickly begin to bind with increasing resistance?

Does it feel like the screw holding the cam to the shaft is loose, so the shaft begins to turn until a shoulder or something engages the cam?

How it feels will determine what to do, but probably some combination of pushing / pulling / twisting / turning / tilting will help you get it free.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

smak it with a hammer, buy new door.
 

bds85466

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

120 degrees was an estimate...I'd have to get out my protractor to be certain when I get home.

I'm sure it's empty.

That's the most barbaric thing I think I've ever seen tashasdaddy write.

I guess I'll just keep fiddling, twisting, applying different pressures in different spots until I get too frustrated. The entire box is hard metal...like toolbox strength.
 

oops!

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

That's the most barbaric thing I think I've ever seen tashasdaddy write.

tee hee hee.....:D .....thats cause he aint afraid of replacing the door.....(no insult intended)

i was gonna suggest a grinder...:)

if bob vt was here...........:eek: :eek:
 

bds85466

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

simple, effective, frustration releif. It's beginning to make more and more sense.

Usually all of you high rankers are very methodical, so the hammer method is actually less superficial than I once thought.
 

Bob_VT

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

Oh I can get the door open but it will require someone yelling FIRE IN THE HOLE three times!! :D

Are you sure you have the right key? Is it a spring loaded latch tab or a swing latch?

If there is nothing in there....... why are we opening it? Is there a missing family pet? Need a secure place to hide?

I am just anti hammer in this situation..... most problems can be cured with the proper placement of a good explosive charge!

OR

Have you considered dialing 911 ????
 

CATransplant

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Re: Can't open my glovebox

I like TD's hole saw idea. A 3" dia. hole in the bottom of the glovebox would give you enough room to remove the nut off the back of the lock and take the whole danged thing out. A little duct tape would keep the door closed, or a bungee if you're into appearances or something.

Besides, who wears gloves on a boat, anyhow?:D
 
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