buying a used motor need advice

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hi im looking into buying a used 1990 johnson 120hp outboard what i would like to know is seeing how i only have 30 day warranty what tests should i peform to make sure its a good engine and what should the compression be on this motor im just nervous about the vro and whether or not it may have had problems and possibly damaged the engine any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks jeff.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: buying a used motor need advice

North..... The following may be of some interest to you. (General Engine Checks)<br /><br />First, check the compression. It should be approx 100+ psi and even on all cylinders. On some V/6 looper engines, the starter bendix will kick out if all of the spark plugs are removed. If this takes place, leave the spark plugs in, excepting the cylinder you're checking of course.<br /><br />NOTE..... If leaving the spark plugs in while you're checking the compression (V/6 Loopers), make sure that the ignition key is in the "OFF" position. You do not want that engine to start while you're doing that test. <br /><br />Next, with the s/plugs removed, check the spark. It should jump a 7/16" gap with a strong blue flame on all cylinders. (The s/plugs must be removed in order to obtain the highest rpm available). On engines 1972 and older, and engines without solid state ignition, set the tester gap to 1/4".<br /><br />Check the continuity of the ignition coils. Remove the primary orange wire from whatever it's connected to. It may be connected to a powerpack screw type terminal, a rubber plug connector, or it may simply plug onto a small boss terminal of the coil itself.<br /><br />Connect the black lead of a ohm meter to the spark plug boot terminal, then with the red ohm meter lead, touch the ground of the coil or the powerhead itself if the coil is still installed.<br /><br />Then touch (still with the red lead) the orange wire if it's attached to the coil, or if it's not attached, touch the primary stud of the coil. You should get a reading on both touches (contacts). If not, check the spring terminal inside the rubber boots of the spark plug wire. Poor or no continuity of a coil is one reason for s/plug fouling.<br /> <br />When removing the spark plugs, make a note of which s/plug came from what cylinder. They should all look alike, but if not, that difference should lead a mechanic in a certain direction.<br /> <br />Remove the spark plugs, then insert a screwdriver or some such object into the cylinder, and have it rest on top of the piston. Do not apply pressure to the screwdriver yet. You simply want to know where the piston is. Now, turn the flywheel by hand and get the piston to come up to dead top center, then drag it down about 1" by turning the flywheel. Now, hold the flywheel tightly and apply pressure to that screwdriver or whatever object you're using. If you can move that piston without moving the flywheel, that indicates that there is play in either the wrist pin area or at the crankshaft to connecting rod area. <br /><br />If the engine has been sitting for any length of time (a month or more), there's a very good possibility that the carburetor(s) are somewhat fouled/clogged/gummed. If so, they'll require removing, cleaning, and rebuilding.<br /> <br />Remove the carburetor face plate. Observe the carburetor(s) while you pump the fuel primer bulb. If fuel flows out of the carburetor(s), they will require removing, cleaning, and rebuilding.<br /><br />At the lower portion of the lower unit, there will be a large slotted screw. Loosen that screw to see if the unit has good lube, and to check for metal filings and water. Small fuzzy filings is acceptable. Sliver and/or splinter type slices/chips of metal are not! Water would indicate that the unit has faulty seals. The lower unit requires filling from that large slotted bottom screw until the lubricant flows out of the like screw higher up in the lower unit. Should your engine have a philips screw located in the skeg, do not remove it as that is a shoulder bolt type screw that is actually a pivot point for a internal shift lever.<br /> <br />Check, while under way, that the engine engages both forward and reverse properly, and that the engine does not jump out of forward gear at a high rpm.<br /> <br />If the engine is on a boat, check the steering to make sure that the steering rod moves in and out freely, and that the engine swivels freely in even degrees in each direction.<br /> <br />When running the engine, pulling each s/plug boot terminal off of the s/plugs should result in a even rpm drop through out.<br /> <br />Check that the PTT assy runs the engine up and down smoothly... and that it doesn't drift down on its own.<br /> <br />(As I think of more, I'll tweak this list)
 

Solittle

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Re: buying a used motor need advice

BEFORE you buy (not after) check for compression. Should be above 100 psi and all cylinders within 15% of each other. Also check for water and/or metal filings in the geat case. Also - also - get a water test. Also - also - also find out when the water pump was last replaces.<br /><br />After you buy - enjoy it. You might want to think of scrapping the VRO and going to premix after the warranty expires. Given good maintenance it is hard to break those OMC V4s.
 

93bronco

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Re: buying a used motor need advice

the next used motor i buy i would definitly spend the 40.00 on new head gaskets and have the heads pulled after the comp check and before the 30 days run out. <thats just me>, cheap insurance knowing it has new head gaskets, along with the visual condition of heads and cylinders.<br /><br />120 lv are<br />great motors.
 

steelhead1

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Re: buying a used motor need advice

i have a 1990 evinrude 120.have had it for 7 years fishing the greatlakes.what a strong dependable motor so far.i keep up the maintanance and have had it in the shop 4 times.twice to get the carbs rebuilt and last year i took out a gear in the lower unit going across lake michigan.things happen like that.i use cabelas signature tcw3 oil in it.never haver to change plugs all summer and 90% of my time is slow trolling.i am going to decarb the motor this spring i never did and here about how u should yearly.over all very pleased with the 90 120.<br />scott
 
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Re: buying a used motor need advice

just want to say thanks to joe reeves ,solittle,2kboat,and steelhead1 appreciate your advice greatly i will perform these tests and hope the motor checks out because the price is right. again thanks guys .
 
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