Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

[Floridaguy32514]

Okay, so a little background on me, I'm 24, I've been working security since litterally the day I turned 18, I took my licensing class on my 18th birthday and was working 2 days later.

I have experience working every single type of security there is, from your glorified house boy at a hotel, to heavily armed in the ghetto, to chemical plants.

I finally have landed a decent in-house security job that pays well, and I only work a few days a week, so I'm looking to add ways to make money on my free days, and I have 2 business ideas.



1st idea would be to offer security surveys for businesses, i just completed one for my current employer and was compilmented on how it looked, so it gave me this idea.

I would come in, find out what the goals are (keeping criminals out, access control, etc) and do a walk around and give a final written report out lining everything that can be done, organized by both cost and level of importance. whether it being adding cameras, or just removing items from a property to make it harder for the criminal element.


2nd idea would be for the hunters.

if you own or lease hunting land, everyone knows that poaching / trespassing can be an issue. the Idea would be you pay me a set rate per visit, or work out if I need to stay out there or use different techniques, to catch and / or deter trespassers.

I've done it for a few friends before. I would go out at the evening times, and stay for 3-4 hours, combination of driving the trails, and walking around on foot. and have caught poachers before.


What do you all think?

 

[aspeck]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

As for your second idea, I know a few local guys that went to the local sherriff's department for the poaching issue. These off duty deputies get paid $10 per hour and permission to hunt on the property ... A win/win for both.

both ideas seem to have merit. The question is, can you find people to hire you?

 

[Floridaguy32514]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

As for your second idea, I know a few local guys that went to the local sherriff's department for the poaching issue. These off duty deputies get paid $10 per hour and permission to hunt on the property ... A win/win for both.

both ideas seem to have merit. The question is, can you find people to hire you?

Thats my curiosity, I plan on posting these ideas on some local forums to get feedback, but this is the only forum I can get on at work.

That would be great for the Deputies here, unfortunately there is a set policy they must pay them 27.50 an hour here, and 2.50 goes to the department.

 

[avenger79]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

IMO the 2nd idea, having you romping around the woods and driving the trails would be just as bad as having poachers out there. with the exception of taking game of course. The idea is to not have much traffic going through the woods.

first idea sounds valid though.

again just my opinion.

 

[alldodge]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

Opinion says:
The first idea looks like the security side of the home inspection thing. There will always be folks willing to take you up on it, but I would look at something like that as bringing someone in to sell me something. Having a good looking presentation is always a good thing.

The second idea is also a good one for those that are willing to spend the bucks to get someone to do it. Most the folks out here in the country don't won't folks doing stuff on their land for many reasons. The one reason that is most voiced is due to liability. Twice a year near everyone puts an add in the local paper stating no trespassing and the like. If they didn't do it, and didn't have it posted, they open themselves up "more" for a law suit if some kid and his dirt dike falls down and hurts his self.

I like finding cattle rancher with a ground hog problem that doesn't have time. Find a vantage point, wait and if you get one can get you 50 to 100. Only problem is my friends are the ones who would call and then I would just ask for a case of beer.

 

[redneck joe]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

Not bad ideas but,,, can you handle the liability you are biting off? You do a survey for me, don't notice the chain link fence has been cut, (just an example) crooks clean out my building, I sue you into oblivion. I hire you to check my farm property, you come across a poacher but he doesn't care what you tell him and a gun battle happens. I get sued for millions, guess what I do to you?

I have a friend that owns a security company and when I seen what he pays for insurance I about filled my pants. It's his largest operating cost and goes up with every employee he hires.

I would imagine the insurance cost is mostly due to having employees. Sounds like the OP would be a one man band so I would imagine that would be minimized. A good disclaimer as part of the contract should also help. An area where some quality time with a lawyer up front would be money well spent.

I would be more interested in the business side of it. I would think the opportunities are more out there than landowners. More consistent work, probably better pay.

 

[redneck joe]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

Well anyone can sue anyone for any reason. I could get sued from a parent at my kids school because my kid has dreads and it scared little johnny.

Just thinking it would keep the 'easy' ones out of the courtroom.

 

[Fleetwin]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

I think part of an issue is the word "Security". People can read a lot into that word that is not intentional. 'Security" means you stop things from happening and/or your are protecting the owner.

As far as approaching landowners/farmers/ranchers, etc. I think I would use the words: "Surveillance and Inspection".

You can "inspect" the property and provide "surveillance" if they opt for it.

 

[redneck joe]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

I think part of an issue is the word "Security". People can read a lot into that word that is not intentional. 'Security" means you stop things from happening and/or your are protecting the owner.

As far as approaching landowners/farmers/ranchers, etc. I think I would use the words: "Surveillance and Inspection".

You can "inspect" the property and provide "surveillance" if they opt for it.

good point

 

[greenbush future]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

In the most simple terms "security" is word that means different things to different people. That said, with the advent of the internet, I can monitor any location I want for a fee, and I don't need anyone to be there to do it.

The other idea about a security consultation is a good one, but feel your target audience (hunters, land owners) would be small, but it depends on where you live, and who you know. I think both could earn you some extra $$ but to make it a company and full time, would require more thought, and a true business plan.

 

[aspeck]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

Thats my curiosity, I plan on posting these ideas on some local forums to get feedback, but this is the only forum I can get on at work.

That would be great for the Deputies here, unfortunately there is a set policy they must pay them 27.50 an hour here, and 2.50 goes to the department.

These guys are off duty and on their own time, that is why nothing goes through the Sherrif's department. Land owners and sherriff and deputies are friends

 

[ehenry]

Re: Business owners and hunters, would you pay for this service?

A group of land owners here formed an association and the association pays off duty LEO's to patrol their roads to watch for road hunters/poachers. No clue what they are being paid but it works for the land owners. Road hunting and poaching went from being pretty bad to zero.

Most of the guys are full time road deputies from the SO. The Sheriff allows them to use their patrol cars and stay uniformed. Its worked out well. Not only has it stopped the poaching and led to several good size drug busts.