Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

Mr.Ladyfish

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This weekend I'm going to get the daughter's '95 XP out of storage where it has been sitting for 3 years. I know I need a new battery and will have to drain the gas tank but are there any other things I need to take care of before attempting to start it? Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

Did you fog the carbs and cylinders before putting it away ? Has It been stored out side or inside ? <br />If its been inside and fogged before putting it away i would spray some fogging spary down the cylinders and let it sit for a few hours, If the carbs still have fuel in them i would have them cleaned out and have the gaskets replaced along with new plugs. <br />Check all fuel and oil lines, they have a tendency of drying up and change the oil in the oil injection tank and clean or replace all filters. <br />Sea-doo's dont like being stored two long, moisture tends to attack the crank bearings and then its all over, Im hope you fog it before you put it away !
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

No it wasn't fogged. It wasn't supposed to be put away for this long, just turned out that way and I guess I just let it get away from me. It was stored inside so maybe I'll get lucky. How hard is it to clean the carbs? I can handle the lines & filters OK. What about the pump? Anything need lubrication or other maintenance there?<br />Thanks for the help.
 

quebec#1

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

You could change the oil in the cone that you see in the nossel but i would get new gaskets for the carbs and clean them out and fog the cylinders and let it sit for a while. Its a bit of work to get to the carbs and not much room to get to them so for some cheap insurance i would bring it to the dealer boat or sea-doo and have them tune it up for a few dollars, its cheap insurance !<br />You may be ok and just try adding gas and a fresh batery and grease the pivot on the shaft that spins the impeller but as with my 1994 xp that was in storage four about the same time (3 years) it ran well for the summer until later on the crank bearings went. Im not trying to scare you but sea-doo's rotax engines need to be stored and well lubed, <br />Why not go to sea-doo.net you will find lots of great help on this site. Good Luck. Gary....
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

I would change the pump oil, gas, greese it, check inside the air box to make sure a mouse hasn't made a nest in there (been there, seen it), change the battery, pull the plugs and squirt a shot of wd-40 in each cyl (ground the plug wires) don't replace the plugs and spin it over a turn or 2 (either by hand or battery power). Screw a fresh set of plugs in and see what happens. Also check the trailer tires and service the wheel bearings).
 

Mr.Ladyfish

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

This may be more of a project than I expected.....it took me 3 hours to find the key to unlock the trailer yesterday. :D
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

Let me know what happens ! Like i said before sea-doo.net has some great advise for your 96 xp..
 

Mr.Ladyfish

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

Thanks for the help Gary. I went to sea-doo.net but didn't really have the time to get into it yet. I plan on starting working on it either tonight or tomorrow. Hate when work gets in the way of fun related projects. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks again.
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

Going into unchartered waters today. The impeller is froze and I will be tearing it apart today.
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

Do you mean the impeller would turn when the engine is running in water ?
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

No, the impeller is froze up. Won't budge. It may be something else in the drive train. I just got a manual Sat. and have been reading before I start. When I hit the start button it doesn't turn over. I took the cone off the back and it looks like the impeller is corroded tight to the ring around it.
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

oh boy, I posted a lot of good info on pre storage at a site, called pwc alaska under maintenance. but I think you are in for more trouble than just the pump, pull the pump off the boat, you have the old carrier seal on the drive shaft those may be frozen to the shaft also, remove the plugs from engine and pour 2 oz of auto trans fluid in carbs with throttle open and a little more in plug holes and let it sit a day. don't crank the engine. drain all the gas and oil from the tanks. spray all the carb linkage with wd 40 with the pump off see if its frozen or was it the engine that was frozen. I never saw a pump stick like you described. while the pump is out change the lube if it has any left in it. if its milkey 3 years will destroy the berrings and it will need to be rebuilt, get a sea doo splined tool and after 24 hours place it in the pto flywheel rock the engine back and forth with a breaker bar manually ontill it turns free, with plugs out obviously.place a rag over the engine to catch the trans fluid as it comes out of the plug holes and disconnect the pulse lines from the fuel pump. ground the wires and crank the fluid out with the starter don't run the starter too long or you will get it hot. while you are cranking the engine have some fresh gas in the tank with the return hose going into a can to collect it, have some 2 stroke oil in the gas to lube the internal parts, this should flush out the carbs and may save a rebuild on them. after you have the trans fluid flushed out of the engine and it is turning over easily put in the plugs connect the wires and pour a small amount of gas in the carbs . Try to start it it will foul the plugs several times clean them and repeat but do not tighten them just finger tighten also re attach the pulse hose to the fuel pump, once it starts to try to run have a hose ready, when it starts, run it on the hose for 3 min re clean the plugs tighten them and run it a few min more. re install the berring carrier with new berrings and seals and re install the pump and see if it works out ok . I have brought many 787 and 951 engines back to life and this is how I do it. After it runs a while remove the plugs, bring each piston up to top dead center as soon as it starts on its way down, stop turning the engine and push on the top of the piston with a scrwedriver if it goes clunk the rod berrings have play in them if its tight and there is no play it will probably be ok you should have a 720 engine in your ski and those are really a simple engine and pretty indestructable when they are taken care of but 3 years with water in the exhaust evaporating and condensing in the crank case may bee more than it could handle. hope this helps.
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

Thanks for the info Jeff. I'll follow your advice and let you know the results.
 

Jeff Walkowiak

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

if its frozen up its more likely the engine than the pump. but the carrier seal will make it feel like the pump because they weld themselves to the drive shaft and will rip the hose or break the hull where the hose mounts if you try to turn over the engine while they are stuck. after the pump is out you will know because the shaft won't pull out the rear like it is supposed to , after un doing the hoses on the pump and the 17mm nuts that hold it to the hull if it dosent come off let me know I will tell you some secrets on how to get a stuck pump off without breaking the ears. just e mail me at jeff@cobrajetsteering.com
 

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

the impeller sits in a nylon liner and it is either stainless or aluninum so I doubt its stuck. if the pump sat with water in it it could be frozen internally but when it is off the boat you will know for sure if it turns, my money is on the engine being stuck, the starter would have spun the berring on the drive shaft if it was just the carrier berring/ push on the impeller with a big screwdriver and see if it moves just a little if so its not frozen, when an engine sits for a length of time there is always water in the exhaust, this water evaporates and as a vapor it travels up to condense in the exhaust manifold and dripps in to the crank case, there it feasts on the berrings and they eventually lock up some gets in the cylinders and sticks the pistons and rings, to avoid this fog the engine and remove the hose at the end of the exhaust pipe place some heavy plastic over the end of the pipe to isolate it from the water box/ just slip the hose over the plastic do not tighten the clamp all evaporating water now will exit the exhaust hole and not work up to the engine, place your key on the hose so you remember what you did. when you see the lanyard by the hose and the clamp off you dont forget to remove the plastic when you take it out of storage. and use clear silicon spray on everything not wd 40, wd40 is a penetrating oil it works in to hoses and plug wires and will gradually destroy them silicon coats stuff and displaces water and is a better way to go. wd 40 loosens stuff silicon protects stuff,
 

Jeff Walkowiak

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Re: Bringing SeaDoo Out Of Storage

I was just checking to be sure of the year it is a 95 correct as 96 was a different engine and different drive shaft seal with a totally different way to pull the shaft, some one said 96 but you posted 95, a 95 is what i told you about
 
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