Brake Problem Consult - Anyone at Fault?

RPack

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Long-time lurker, first-time poster. You guys have been very helpful, now I would appreciate your thoughts on this one.<br /><br />I bought a new King trailer in '97 for my 18' Seaswirl. Nice trailer with (what I now know) are Tie Down disc/surge brakes. About 2500 total miles on the trailer. Never in salt.<br /><br />Every year we take a trip to one of our favorite lakes, about 200 miles, the last 40 VERY rough road in wilderness. This year, like every year, I got the boat and trailer checked out by a local boat shop, with specific instructions to make sure that the trailer was OK with explanation as to the conditions to be encountered.<br /><br />While on the highway, about 150 miles after check out by mechanic, left rear brake starts billowing smoke. (Had been going about 65 mph over 4-laner, mild to moderate hills) Pull over with fire extinguisher in hand - no flame, but brake fluid all over the place. Limp slowly into town. Mechanic says that there was no evidence of any brake pad, brake pistons on rotor, brakes shot. Right side had less than 10% of the pad remaining.<br /><br />The local mechanic does some research and finds out that there had apparently been a number of problems with this specific design of brake and that the manufacturer had replaced many of them. (3 year warranty - mine were obviously past the warranty period.) He obtained a new set of the replacement design brakes and installed them. I was out $550, a hotel room, and a day on the lake.<br /><br />I get home and bring the old parts and invoice to my home town mechanic. They say, yes, they replaced many of those brakes in the past, but that mine were fine when they left their hands. While I know that they checked the fluid level, tire pressure, etc. (documented on work ticket), I have nothing to tell me that they actually looked at the brake pads. They suggest contacting the trailer manufacturer.<br /><br />I did so; King Trailer says that yes, many of those brakes were replaced, under warranty, but there was never a "recall". I haven't yet contacted Tie Down, but I will do so this next work week.<br /><br />I have no interest in making a "federal case" out of this, but I do believe that when I ask/make out a work ticket for something to be checked out I should have some reasonable assurance that it is proper and safe.<br /><br />Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that if the mechanic had inspected the brakes and saw that the pads were worn to such an extent, that they would have recommended replacement?<br /><br />Is it at all likely for the pads to have become so seriously worn after 150 miles to have gone from "OK" to totally gone? (By the way, yes, I do use the reverse lock-out when backing.) <br /><br />If the mechanic has had previous experience that a particular trailer/brake system has had problems (to the point where that shop said they no longer carry that manufacturer because of the history of bad brakes), is it not reasonable to expect them to have said something if they saw such a system? (They said the different brakes are readily identifiable by the color of the calipers.) <br /><br />Is it reasonable to expect that a properly inspected brake system like this would not fail like it did after only 150 or so miles?<br /><br />Your thoughts/opinions are welcome. As I hope I've indicated, I want to be fair about this. I'm not out to put the screws to anyone, but in the same vein, if my expectations are reasonable, then I think someone (who?) should step up and reimburse me. Fortunately, there was no accident and no one was hurt. If there had been -- well, some one else would likely be asking these questions in a somewhat more formal way!<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />RPack
 

lakeman1999

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Re: Brake Problem Consult - Anyone at Fault?

Used to be when you took something in for repair, or checkup you went into the shop, and watched them work omn your vehicle. In this day and age, you cannot watch them, and I will tell you today you cannot trust anyone. I try to do all service work myself if possible. :mad: :mad: :D :D
 

roscoe

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Re: Brake Problem Consult - Anyone at Fault?

Local shop would never get another cent of my money. Not even in an emergency. I would pay extra to get parts and service elsewhere.<br /><br />Been there, done that, Ford/Mercury garage, and Midas Brakes.
 

wayne h

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Re: Brake Problem Consult - Anyone at Fault?

as a mechanic myself its hard to say when you are dealing with brakes.good parts can go bad in the blink of an eye with brakes.also it depends on how the driver,drives. i installed a new clutch in a car 1 time and it lasted 2 days. come to find out the driver was driving with his foot on the clutch pressing it just enough to make the clutch slip.i am not saying that you are at fault here but you might have a problem proving it was there fault. remember to watch your mechanic and ask for the old parts if they change something.even if you dont know what you are looking at ask for the old parts or to see them at lease.i myself always box us the old parts and ask the customer if they want them. my boss thinks i am crazy but i have a lot of customers that ask for me when they need work done.
 
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