ok guy's <br /> it's offical.. i suck at fishing with sinking lures. i've tried and tried. i fished where i know that there are fish and with so many diffrent retrives that i am seriously thinking of putting a tutu on my plug to entertain the fish with some ballet. i would have better luck sticking a frying pan out over the side of the boat with a sign on it saying " have mercy..starving fisherman." live bait i kill em, top water plugs i kill em , i could put a 2 month old dead stinky octapus on a fly rod and as long as it floats i will kill em but as soon as it sinks it might as well have a blinking neon sign on it saying " sharp hook here". what is the trick here. if something don't change soon im going to TNT.