Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Expidia

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I'm about to order a bimini from Overton's for my 2007 Lund Classic 1425 SS.

Since Lunds come with this sweet track all around the gunnel for attaching cup holders, rod holders etc . . . Does anyone know of a place that might make a fitting to fit in this track's slot to mount the bimini tube's eye end.

Seems it would be a shame to have to drill holes in the top of this nice gunnel to mount a bimini or a sliding track being that there is already a built in track.

This track is at a 45 degree angle, so the fitting would have to be angled in between a top mount and a side mount fitting in order to attach to the eye end.

I'll check with Lund, but I doubt they have this fitting. I'm sure the dealer probably just drills holes in the top of the gunnel and slaps the mount on for speed of installation.
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Check this link. It says they make brackets to attach a bimini to the sport track.​


I wish mine had the sport track. It really hurt to drill holes in the gunwales :)
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Check this link. It says they make brackets to attach a bimini to the sport track.​


I wish mine had the sport track. It really hurt to drill holes in the gunwales :)

Wow, thx Esox. That just solved my dilemma. That's was another reason I went with the Lund ... for the sport trak feature.

I never saw that picture on their site. thx for the fast reply because I ordered the Bimini last night and also ordered a 24 inch top mount slide which would have forced me to pull out the "dreaded" drill.

Now I can return the slide track mount to Overton's.

I actually went out to the boat last night before I ordered and put my hand on the bracket and said "I wonder if I could use these brackets" I moved one back an forth to see how sturdy they are and said to myself "naw, I can't take a chance as these are just made of plastic and are designed to hold cup holders, rod holders etc. I figured I can't take a chance on the bimini snapping one off while I'm underway. All the bimini's fiittings are nylon for strength, not plastic.

When I looked at that pic you linked me too, my eyes widened and you just made my morning!!!

I had already figured I was going to mount the 4 strap clips upside down under the sport trak gunnel and just thread the strap through so I wouldn't have to drill another 8 holes into the gunnels.

That gimbal mount for the Fishfinder or GPS is cool isn't? I did see that in the catalog! But the "catalog" DOES NOT show a bimini top being attached to a sport trak bracket.

Just before the boat came I was disappointed when I called Lund to see if they made a sport Trak bracket for my Cannon downrigger because my model was not listed and THEY DON'T because the gunnels are too narrow. I'll have to drill to mount my one downrigger, but that will be 4 holes into the carpet/deck in the aft corner to the left of the motor.

Your link allows me to put the old drill back in my holster. Better yet, because the Sport Trak goes all around the boat, I'll be able to now slide the bimini all the way towards the Bow, the Stern or leave it centered.
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Glad to hear that helped!​
 

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Installed using the Sport Trak . . . not so great!

Installed using the Sport Trak . . . not so great!

Bimini came today. Tried it out with the two Lund Sport brackets.

Due to the position of the shift below the sport trak that goes all around the boat, the bracket can mounted in front of the shift or behind it. The front proved not to allow the top to be folded back because the poles were hitting the shifter. When mounted in back of the shifter the 46" frame was hitting the motor when folded back.

Also these tops come in 46" from some companies and 48" from others in the mid range choices. The one I bought from Overtons is 46" But side mounting dropped the eye of the frame down another two inches, which I couldn't afford to lose since I'm 5' 11". My head on standing was hitting the roof.

So I took out the drill and popped two holes for each bracket on the top of the rail. Worked out great and looks excellent.


Glad I didn't cxl the 24" slide track I had also ordered which is coming in another box. It seems there is no perfect place to mount the bracket for my setup because if it's too far back it's going to get in the way of my downrigger. If it's too far forward I lose 1/2 the back seating area.

So a sliding bracket will work out perfectly. That 24" one can also be cutdown if need be, but it will allow me to move the top where ever I like it.

When downrigging I'll be able to move it from the stern a little or flip the whole top over onto the bow or just open it up and use it while trolling.
 

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Esox

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Looks good Expidia! Nice job. Be the first to post some pics of your boat in the "Show your Lund" thread on the Lund board. :)
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

i have a 3ft track on mine, and can move it as the sun changes direction. more shade in front or back.
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

tracks came today. Easy install. 24 inch needs a center screw at the 12" mark. Got to use one of the first holes I drilled to mount the stationery mount a few days ago. Tracks covered them anyway.

They don't look anodized to me which would help prevent pitting. Maybe they are. I'll have to make a call. The bimini poles I know are.

Left it at 24" because it gives me leeway to slide further forward when I need to get to my pedestal mounted downrigger crank and can slide it back to expose the rear seats when the down rigger is off the boat.

As the other poster said it leaves me the option also to move it farther forward to shade the bow end if desired.

A little sloppier frame fit than I expected though. Probably because it fits widths from 73 to inches. The front screw down stop helps forward movement, but I may have to get two more stops so the top does not slide back and forth along the rails and hit the motor to while trailering.

Thought of the option of the rear mounted struts but don't want to deal with it sticking up in the air while fishing, trolling or getting to the stern at times.

Sadly been on the water twice now and already have several scratches and nicks at various places. This is starting to really tick me off. I'm a stickler at trying to keep things pristine and I'm beating up my new boat already.
The rails (gunnel's) on this Lund are one of the selling features. They are not just aluminum, but painted and clear lacquered so that the finish gives off this rich supple feeling to the touch.

First day, just off the trailer and even though I had the fenders out and the dock had rub rails I noticed a few foot long scratches when I got home (sigh). Why, because Lund is too cheap to paint their logo on. It's a cheap decal that goes the length of the boat and peels when on hot aluminum. I can imagine how much this ones going to cost me to buy a new one and peel it and stick the new one on. This should be fun.

Now I see when I was putting the tracks on tonight new scratches created on the top rails from these stupid rivets that the heads protrude down from the black nylon bushings when the top is folded down (the bimini co. chose to have the bimini frame rivets pointing down, not sideways or up!!! Two times use and I'm already looking to get touch up paint from Lund for the rails and a new side decal.

Backed slightly into the cement wall with the rail corner (another chip) while trying to leave enough room for another boat on a double ramp.
Pulled up to straighten car out only to hear my Saabs right mirror ever so lightly scraping the same wall . . . Yes I keep my cars pristine too, or used to :0(

Parked the car, ran down to the dock where my Wife was holding the dock line while my new boat was bouncing up and down under the metal ramp stairs that lead to the dock because the wind was blowing the boat under the stairs. But she still had a good hold on that limp rope end!
The new seats were slamming into the underside of the stairs.

I need to get over all these new nicks now. I attribute it to my being a newbie to boating . . . . Since I've only been boating for "37 YEARS"!

Now I'm looking forward to see what I can damage this coming weekend.
To think back on how drilling that first hole into the gunnel for the bimini frame was killing me a few days ago.

Boating's fun, no?
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Hello,

I came across your forum thread while researching putting a bimini on my 2004 Lund Explorer. A couple questions if you don't mind.

1. I have ordered a 54" high bimini, so I don't have to bend over while walking about on my boat. I know it's a shade trade off, but it's difficult to reel and net while bending over. Do you have thoughts about this?

2. I have the same sport track/gunnel issue. I am imagining attaching the hardware to the sport track bracket. Thoughts?

3. Any other thoughts are appreciated. I just ordered the bimini last night, but being it's Sunday, there's probably time to change things if necessary.

Thanks so much!

David



I'm about to order a bimini from Overton's for my 2007 Lund Classic 1425 SS.

Since Lunds come with this sweet track all around the gunnel for attaching cup holders, rod holders etc . . . Does anyone know of a place that might make a fitting to fit in this track's slot to mount the bimini tube's eye end.

Seems it would be a shame to have to drill holes in the top of this nice gunnel to mount a bimini or a sliding track being that there is already a built in track.

This track is at a 45 degree angle, so the fitting would have to be angled in between a top mount and a side mount fitting in order to attach to the eye end.

I'll check with Lund, but I doubt they have this fitting. I'm sure the dealer probably just drills holes in the top of the gunnel and slaps the mount on for speed of installation.
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

I can't answer 2 or 3. About 1, did you measured 54" from the mounting point to where you want the top of the bimini to end? That sounds auful long... Im not familiar with the Lund freeboard so it might be fine.
Expidia should be around, he is a regular....
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Nandy,

Thanks for the reply.

The 54" is not length, rather it is the height above the mounting point. I think that's what you understood, but the words were a bit different.

The freeboard is only 20". So with a 54", there's room to walk without stooping.

Do I have it right?

DG
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Hello,

I came across your forum thread while researching putting a Bimini on my 2004 Lund Explorer. A couple questions if you don't mind.

expidia says:
It looked funny when I was scrolling around some threads tonight and I saw my name as the thread starter 'from two years ago" :D

1. I have ordered a 54" high Bimini, so I don't have to bend over while walking about on my boat. I know it's a shade trade off, but it's difficult to reel and net while bending over. Do you have thoughts about this?

I had that problem deciding the same thing before I ordered mine. But it's a process of elimination: short, you can't stand up. Tall, it's going to look ridiculous. You will take a great looking boat and make it goofy looking. You will look like Big Bird cruising by. I hope your boat's not yellow :D
Why use one at all, if it's that high it won't shade you much. I think mine is 46 inches from the top of the gunnel. It's higher than you think it is cause it bows up in the middle. Go with the middle choice. They make adjustable extension brackets, if you absolutely need more room after you use it awhile.


2. I have the same sport track/gunnel issue. I am imagining attaching the hardware to the sport track bracket. Thoughts?

3. Depends on how you use your rig. I have a full enclosure and I can run at 30 mph. I would not trust those brackets at high speeds. They will snap if you go too fast. My enclosure gives me added support, but I still didn't like how flimsy it felt when I used the sport trak brackets, so I attached the Bimini to a top slide bracket mounted on the gunnel. The taller it is the more sway you'll get.

A higher bimini is going to catch the wind more like a parchute on windy days.

http://www.iboats.com/Taylor_Alumin...311588577--**********.923847450--view_id.2675

I can take some pics of it if you like. The brackets were about $20 for both. If you use the sport trak brackets the Bimini is going to sway back an forth with the wind and the waves rocking the boat.

If you use the sport trak brackets you will lose inches on each side when the frame is mounted inside the boat. My boat is small enough, I didn't like losing the space with the first installation.

Those brackets are designed for drink holders, gimbal mounted electronics, rod holders etc. The dealer uses them to install the Bimini I guess, but I did not like how rickety it was in my opinion.

3. Any other thoughts are appreciated. I just ordered the Bimini last night, but being it's Sunday, there's probably time to change things if necessary.

You can tell the online shop you ordered the wrong size. You can refuse delivery and when they get the item back they will ship the new one. Or you can ask them to charge your card again and ship the new one right out and refuse delivery of the first one (if this does not strap you money wise) and that saves the time of them getting the other one back. They will credit your card back when they get your return back (could take two weeks by the time they get it back and credit you before they ship though.

You can accept it, try it out and if you don't like the height you can cut the 4 tube ends down yourself. But you'll need to call them and order new eye end because they are pressed on and crimped. You'll need to order the ones with screws. West might carry the ends but at twice the price.

If you are going to use a custom trailering cover from Lund it won't fit on a top of the gunnel mounted system. I had to have a shop make up a custom cover for mine for about $450.

If you use the sport trak bracket you can still use a Lund trailerable cover.

Maybe you should post this question in the Lund forum to see who had their Bimini mounted with the sport trak brackets?

Navy Jr. recently bought a new Lund from a dealer. Maybe he will chime in if he has Bimini and how the dealer mounted it to his rig?
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Expidia,

Thanks for the thorough response. The "Big Bird" thing has really been nagging at me. I've seen some boats on the water that have such biminis. Ridiculous is being too kind.

Interesting about the mounting issues. Suddenly, this bimini is costing a lot of money!

I'm going to take your advice, and follow my gut, and go with the middle option.

I would really like to see pictures if you're willing.

I forgot, did you say you have a tiller as well?

Thanks.

David
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Per Expidia's remarks above, yes, we purchased a new Lund last year. It was the 1750 Fisherman model. That particular boat comes standard with what they call a sun top, and the mounting brackets for the poles are just below the sport track rail. So, sorry, I don't have any experience with a bimini top.

Agree, it might be a good idea to move this thread to the Lund forum. I'll inquire moderator.

-Ken
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

i think it belongs here, i will post a link to this thread in the Lund Forum. that way lund people can see it, also. but this is a top fit post.
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Check this link. It says they make brackets to attach a bimini to the sport track.​


I wish mine had the sport track. It really hurt to drill holes in the gunwales :)

It's not the bracket to attach the frame eye that is the problem in my opinion.
I used those exact brackets the first time around. It's the small strip of plastic that holds the sport trak bracket into the slot in the rail that personally I would not depend on to not snap if you run with your Bimini up.
Even just cruising along at 20 mph into a 10 mph wind is 30 mph onto the frame.

I'm sure if Lund sells them and installs it that way it's safe or they would be getting lawsuits from injuries when the frame snaps off of the bracket or the bracket itself breaks out of the trak.

But I tried it and that mounting method had too much sway for my tastes!
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Per Expidia's remarks above, yes, we purchased a new Lund last year. It was the 1750 Fisherman model. That particular boat comes standard with what they call a sun top, and the mounting brackets for the poles are just below the sport track rail. So, sorry, I don't have any experience with a bimini top.

Agree, it might be a good idea to move this thread to the Lund forum. I'll inquire moderator.

-Ken

Thx Ken, ya it's what I suspected, Lund mounts their tops below the Sport Trak rail system which gives you a beefier design.

I don't know why they show those brackets mounted directly to the plastic sport trak bracket on their website, because it's really flimsy if you mount it that way.
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Expidia,

Thanks for the thorough response. The "Big Bird" thing has really been nagging at me. I've seen some boats on the water that have such biminis. Ridiculous is being too kind.

Interesting about the mounting issues. Suddenly, this bimini is costing a lot of money!

I'm going to take your advice, and follow my gut, and go with the middle option.

I would really like to see pictures if you're willing.

I forgot, did you say you have a tiller as well?

No, I have a side console steering model. Sport trak mounting or slide rail tiller or wheel, you can still slide it back and forth to whatever position you need.

Here are some pics:
This one is where I first installed it using the sport track bracket. I hadn't drilled the holes to attach the straps yet. I was using the cleats until I got the courage to pull out the DRILL!

Once you get that first hole done, it gets a lot easier for the next ones :D

Biminicloseup.jpg


This one is a side shot so you can see the 46 inch one does not throw off the aesthetic balance too much:

Lundltfullviewbimini.jpg


You betcha it gets expensive . . . I have those Sport trak brackets up the ying yang already. 4 for beverage holders, 2 for trolling rod holders, 1 for the mirror and 2 more for the Bimini frame etc.

This is a good pic to show the slides mounted on the top of the gunnels. It also shows how the frame sits on the gunnels. I use a couple of 5 inch foam pieces that stay on the frame and are attached with the mini bungies to keep the frame from scratching the painted gunnel when it's in the down position.

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One last thing about headroom. The frame only mounts at one point in the middle. The straps can be adjusted so it you are fishing off the back of the boat you can shorten the front straps (and lengthen the back straps) to tilt say the back of the Bimini higher up so it does not interfere with your fishing off the back of the boat. Or visa versa if you are fishing off the front.
Those first two pics show the front of the Bimini tilted higher to allow me to stand while driving.
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Per Expidia's remarks above, yes, we purchased a new Lund last year. It was the 1750 Fisherman model. That particular boat comes standard with what they call a sun top, and the mounting brackets for the poles are just below the sport track rail. So, sorry, I don't have any experience with a bimini top.

Agree, it might be a good idea to move this thread to the Lund forum. I'll inquire moderator.

-Ken


Navy Jr.
Could you take a pic of how your ends are attached to your Lund? I'd be interested in seeing that. I might reconfigure mine at some point. I'm wondering if they went through the hull with bolts or used existing inside structure to attach?
 

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Re: Bimini top install using the built in Lund sport Trak?

Expedia,

Thanks so much for all the help.

Oddly enough, I was able to cancel my order in time. It turns out that the bimini I ordered was 42" and not 46".

I'll now go back and read your experience with closer attention. I'm sure all the answers are there along with the experience.

Best,

David
 
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