Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

bigdee

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Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.
The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."
The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment f or future generations."
She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were truely recycled.
But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.
Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.
But too bad we didn't do the green thing back then.
We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.
But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.
Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.
But that young lady is right; we didn't have the green thing back in our day.
Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.
But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.
We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.
But we didn't have the green thing back then.
Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.
But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

Amen.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

i didn't consider myself an old timer but i remember those times, had to start asking "paper or plastic?" things were made to be repaired not thrown away back then, money didn't grow on trees and leaving a light on when you were the last out of a room could get you whipped:eek:
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

I can remember my grandmother who was born in the 1880's taking the water when she rinsed a milk bottle out on her porch and pouring in into the flower boxes. She said it was wasteful not to reuse it. Even though she had an electric refrigerator she still used an icebox and I would carry the drip pan outside for her to water the flowers besides the house. She had city water at that time but being raised on a farm with a well the habit still stuck with her.

My father would not buy anything he could not make himself. I was the only kid in grade school that carried my lunch in a box made from a sheet of tin from the back of an old stove. Even though he was an engineer who worked on the Manhattan project and later in the Astro-nuclear field and made a good living we had a garage door opener made from the wringer section of an old washing machine and a spare motor.

I have always been somewhat the same practical way (my wife would describe it as cheap") She claims when we go to the scrap yard to turn in my smashed aluminum cans I am the only one there driving a $40,000 pickup. She is younger than me and doesn't remember when "food stamps" came in a ration book during WWII and cans were collected during scrap drives. Also recycling bacon grease and taking it in to the market and getting six cents a pound for it to be recycled into explosives.

I have been fortunate enough over the years to be able to buy anything I want or need but I still enjoy using a lawnmower I found out my the curb in town during trash days and putting an hour or two in getting it running than having paid for a new one.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

Humorously - I've never been all that "green" (though a conservationist). But several years ago, we started buying more veggies at the local farms and meat in bulk. We store most of our food in mason jars, and have stopped using plastic "zip" bags as much. An interesting side effect has been that we don't generate 1/2 the trash we used to as a family of 5, and we re-use most of what we have around the house.


... still don't think I'm "green" though ;)
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

I am only 35 so I barely remember returnable pop and beer bottles.

My grandmother god rest her soul had a lot to do with me not being wasteful.
The lovely lady all of 4'8" tall reused everything she had a real thing about food being wasted. Thankfully most of it rubbed off on me.

I find it funny when you go to the store for two spark plugs they want to put them in a plastic bag big enough to put over my head.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

I think there is an issue of motivation. In the "old days," it was an economic necessity to be thrifty, coupled with the fact that many of our current wasteful products (e.g. plastic grocery bags) simply didn't exist. Plus, during wartime there were government-imposed restrictions on some commodities, as well as a sense of doing one's patriotic duty by conserving. I don't think there was a sense of "being green" behind this thriftiness i.e. it wasn't done for the purpose of preserving the environment.

That having been said, wastefulness drives me absolutely bonkers. I guess I'm in that middle generation (I'm 56) who had parents who lived through the Great Depression and instilled thriftiness on us, and who also saw the awakening of environmental awareness. So that may be what makes me doubly cheap er, frugal.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

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She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?

Amen! +2. Should be required reading for all greenie freaks. I not only recall those days, I lived them.

As a child I earned pocket money picking up the pop bottles on the side of the road to turn in for the 2 cent deposit.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

Hmm, while this thread may make some feel better it doesn't help with the very real problems we (the human race) face concerning how to support 7 billion (and counting) people on this old rock of ours.

We have good and poor growing seasons here and there on this planet, but for the most part we could feed the population at this time 2-3 times over with the amount of cultivatable land here on the big blue marble, and it would help if we did not plow under some crops due to the economics.

Just because a product is not grade AAA or just A does not mean it is not good to eat, in fact some of our best tasting foods have been replaced at the super market for cosmetic reasons. (Tomatoes ETC)
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

There's a lot more to it than food.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

There's a lot more to it than food.

The basic necessities of life are water, food, shelter.
As long as you have the first two you can put together the third.
When you role social economics into the fray then that is another topic, the right to have an ipod is not a necessity of life.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

There's certainly some contradictory things with modern "green" movements. Like CFL lightbulbs certainly use less electricity but they contain mercury and how many of them are being recycled and not just trashed?

Buying a new hybrid vehicle is "green" but considering the energy used and waste generated from the production and transportation of it, wouldn't it have been "greener" to buy an efficient, used, conventional vehicle?

I've heard of hybrid powerboats, but there is zero about powerboating that is "green". You need a sailboat for that
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

We have good and poor growing seasons here and there on this planet, but for the most part we could feed the population at this time 2-3 times over with the amount of cultivatable land here on the big blue marble, and it would help if we did not plow under some crops due to the economics.

Just because a product is not grade AAA or just A does not mean it is not good to eat, in fact some of our best tasting foods have been replaced at the super market for cosmetic reasons. (Tomatoes ETC)

There's plenty of food that's reused for reasons like that. Baby carrots are cut down full size carrots and relish is made of rejected pickles
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

There's plenty of food that's reused for reasons like that. Baby carrots are cut down full size carrots and relish is made of rejected pickles

just like to add .. there is plenty of food thats dumped in landfills.

Just saying .. why ?

I think its BS too .. but who am I to contradict the Green movement.

I find the evaluation of mankind to each other is in fact "toddering" instead of "tendering" ..

Its a My My generation .. not a generation that Recieves .. but Takes. We were givers .. and not takers.

Do with it as you Will .. but I can tell you that Its not an outcome that is welcome nor desired. But it IS an outcome of that that you chose freely...

Sadly its been given .. and the choice is made. I think there is no turning back now.

YD.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

There's plenty of food that's reused for reasons like that. Baby carrots are cut down full size carrots and relish is made of rejected pickles

That's a given, what I am talking about is when the commodities prices are to low for a product, that it is in the farmers best interest to plow it under, whether it be wheat, potatoes, hogs, poultry, cattle, raw milk ETC.

We have the staples for more than enough mouths, its the cost to get it to them.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

I would add that there was a period of time . . .for maybe 15 - 20 years starting in the 1960's , where everything became 'throw away'.; beverage bottles/cans, milk cartons, etc. So, things went from conserving and recycling to consuming and waste. Then, things turned back to recycling again.

I think the latest 'green' movement is in recognition of, despite all of the recycling efforts that came before . . . it is still not enough.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

The basic necessities of life are water, food, shelter.
As long as you have the first two you can put together the third.
When you role social economics into the fray then that is another topic, the right to have an ipod is not a necessity of life.
Actually, potable water was the first thing I thought of.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

Being Green..ZPG....:facepalm: Acuitally i do remeber when i was a younger ideologue, young people are very easy to make a impression on and will fight with conviction that is unbeilivable....Have you ever stopped and asked yourself why the armed service's use 18-25 yr old men..they are very easy to make a impression on..make no mistake there..;)

Green is big business now a lot of money is being made and being backed by govt agenda's..now who do you recruit the young of course. i live in a very green community and listen to this all the time some of it makes sense some of it is absolute rubbish..that is most of it.

It's just a fad we are going thru and soon it will fade into the night..So when a younger person addresses me i have a twinkle in my eye and tell them i am glad you care so much. Debating the isuue is like sawing down a 100' oak with your teeth...your challengeing there religion.

Good will come of it though our world will be cleaner but the cost....that will be staggering, Hopefully they will learn and minmize mistake's in the future.In the interm maybe we can some assistance on ego mgmt now that would end a lot of polution.....think about it.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

We have only one "nest" in this universe, so we can't afford to foul it beyond habitation.
 

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Re: Being green. How many of us old timers can relate to this story??

Ya, we where greener back then :rolleyes::rolleyes:

We where so green that the rivers where catching on fire!!!! We where so green that the Great lakes where for the most part lifeless. We where so green....
 
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