Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

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Ok, I made a huge mistake and attached the battery cables backwards. I pushed the button to lower my outboard and I heard a faint sound, then nothing. Then I discovered my mistake. I hooked the cables up correctly and now I get nothing when I try to raise or lower the motor. I would appreciate any advice you all could give me. MY motor is a 1977 Evinrude 115 (model #115793s). This is my first boat and I haven't even had it on the water yet <br /><br />I have an outing planned for Tuesday July 6th and am hoping I can get this problem fixed before then. If not, can this motor be manually raised and lowered? Again, I appreciate any help you all could provide.<br /><br />Thanks!
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

Hooking the cables backwards wouldn't have any effect on the PTT assy, nor would it cause a fuse to fail. I'd suspect that you neglected to hook up a seperate cable pertainihng to the PTT unit, or the cables are not properly tightened.... or they're tight but dirty.<br /><br />However, hooking the cables up backwards, or connecting a battery charger up backwards will result in destroying the charging rectifier, which you should replace immediately. It does not matter whether the key is off, on, or in the start position due to the fact that voltage is applied to the red lead of the rectifier constantly when the cables are connected to the battery.<br /><br />The rectifier will be on the starboard (right) side of the engine, directly in front of the wiring terminal strip. It will be about 1" in diameter, 1" high, have a triangular like shaped base, and will have 3 wires leading from it.... Yellow, Yellow/Gray, and red (some have 2 yellows).<br /><br />You can test the rectifier as follows:<br /><br />(Small Rectifier Test)<br />(J. Reeves)<br /><br />Remove the rectifier wires from the terminal block. Using a ohm meter, connect the black lead of the ohm meter to the rectifier base (ground), then one by one, connect the red lead of the ohm meter to the yellow, yellow/gray, then the red wire (some rectifiers may also have a yellow/blue wire. If so connect to that also). Now, reverse the ohm meter leads and check those same wires again. You should get a reading in one direction, and none at all in the other direction. <br /><br />Now, connect the black lead of the ohm meter to the red wire. One by one, connect the red lead of the ohm meter to the yellow, yellow/gray, and if present, the yellow/blue wire. Then reverse the leads, checking the wires again. Once more, you should get a reading in one direction and none in the other. <br /><br />Note that the reading obtained from the red rectifier wire will be lower then what is obtained from the other wires. <br /><br />Any deviation from the "Reading", "No Reading" as above indicates a faulty rectifier. Note that a rectifier will not tolerate reverse polarity. Simply touching the battery with the cables in the reverse order or hooking up a battery charger backwards will blow the diodes in the rectifier assy immediately. Good luck.
 

Brew2

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

Not familiar with your particular motor, but most do have a manual release valve to lower motor. Typically there is a screw head you loosen on the tilt mechanism to lower the motor.<br /><br />I'd also pick up a manual for your motor...will answer many questions for you including this one.<br /><br />Good luck!
 

Bass Runner

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

Make sure the ground wire to the solinoid is good, check the fuses make sure they arn't blown, If you didn't try to start the motor that way i don't think you hurt the charging sys. If you hook the battery up backwards the fuse at the motor will blow protecting the circuits, check those and let us know. (Welcome to the forum)
 
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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

ok, all the wiring looks ok to me. And I only found 1 fuse a 20A inline one and it is fine. I am sure there are more fuses but I don't know where to look. One more question, does the motor need to be running to uses the tilt/trim? This my first boat so I am new to all of this and I really appreciate all of your help and thank you all for not giving me a hard time about such a dumb mistake.
 

Hooty

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

No, the engine doesn't have to be running and, like Mr. Reeves said, hooking the battery up backwards didn't hurt the T&T but it did whack the rectifier.<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty
 

Bass Runner

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

Hey Hooty if he didn't have the ignition on when he hooked it up backwards no power would have gone to the motor or charging sys. would it? There should be some fuses somewhere either under the dash or down the starboard side of the boat just follow the wires from the motor and lights you will find them.
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

MissouriBassin <br /><br />does everything else work? Starts, runs, Lights, Ect?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

Bass Runner.... No offense intended here. There is an exception to voltage being applied to the engine with the key off when the engine is alternator equipped and of course has a rectifier.<br /><br />The terminal strip that the rectifier is connected to has a red wire leading to it from the engine wiring harness, the other end of which is connected to the battery side of the starter solenoid, hence that red wire is hot (voltage active) whenever the battery is connected.<br /><br />The rectifiers red lead being connected to that same red engine harness wire results in the rectifiers red lead being voltage active with the battery connected, and if the battery is connected backwards, reverse polarity is fed to the rectifier.
 
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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

ok, I found the screw to lower the motor so I am relieved about that. I think I will have someone else look at the ptt problem as I can't see any fuses other than the one I mentioned earlier. I can go fishing now though so I am satisfied with that for now. Thanks for all of the replies
 

jlehan

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

u can also test the volatge at the ptt motor, make sure u have ground and voltage when u lower and raise the ptt, not sure of wire colours but it shouldnt be that hard to test. i am having problem with my ptt some times it works and others it doesnt so i will be doing this today, but i found with most electrical items its either a bad ground or corroded wire/connection, just clean all the terminals and check for voltage and ground
 
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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

Well, the outing I had planned today went as planned. I had a great time and what do you know, the ptt worked. I don't understand that one but hey I won't complain. I took my brother along and I think he is as excited as I am about being able to fish from a boat now. We didn't catch much but it was a blast anyway. Thanks for all the help I really appreciate it. I think it is time to plan another outing......<br /><br />woohoo!!!
 

Hooty

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

Have a good time out there but do be careful.<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty
 

duck64

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Re: Battery cables were hooked up backwards now tilt/trim won't work

be careful.
 

duck64

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be careful
 
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