bad luck with Lund

[idontlikemerc]

Bought a 2007 Lund 1950 Tyee with 225hp Optimax from PBC. This was the WORST INVESTMENT I HAVE EVER MADE. Purchased in March has been in shop as much as on water and it is still not fixed. The watercraft has had almost every problem a boat can have. Its very disappointing. Most problems have been due to Outboard, however side compartments don?t shut right, radio wouldn?t pick up stations, the sent me brackets for rod holders that scratched my boat. It is all together a Lemon I would be careful if buying a new Lund.

I heard Lund was the best that is why I got it, but the brand new boat is terrible.

 

[Rancherlee]

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#1, you bought it with a Mercury (sorry, I've NEVER had luck with a merc)
#2 Mercury (Brunswick) has owned Lund for a few years now and I suspect that the quality is slipping a little.
#3 Radios never seem to work that good in boats, I've had trouble picking up FM stations from more than 20 miles away with any boat I've owned.

 

[Silvertip]

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If you have a "rubber ducky" type of antenna, get rid of it and install a decent one and your radio reception will improve. About 32 inches is the standard height for FM. Get one that the mast unscrews from the base. That way you just unscrew the mast when you install the cover (if you have one). As for boat problems, most of the time repeat visits are due to an inept service facility. An engine mechanic that has limited troubleshooting skills is going to be hard pressed to do a decent job considering the complexity of the newer motors. You didn't indicate specifically what problems you were having with the boat or the engine so we can't offer much except our condolences. While it can be argued that Lund is the best boat, we can assure you that Lund is a good boat and better than most. Better than others in its price bracket is another story.

 

[idontlikemerc]

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Thanks for the suggestion if I get the boat running right I might try switching the antenna out. I just found out my dealer looked at it and decided to put a new stereo in so maybe it works better now.

As for the motor, it has went it will come out of the shop and I will run it for an hour or two then it goes to guardian mode, rendering it useless. Back when I purchased the boat in March it had an oil leak so I took it back to the dealer. They told my a high pressure oil line on the #3 cylinder came off becuase it got crimped when the motor was installed. Yes, I ran it during break-in like this not knowing any different & it ran fine but smart craft gauges kept saying system fault without giving error.

I think the motor is ruined. You can't run one without oil, especially during break-in. I can't get them to replace motor because they claim there is no damage. However, it goes to the shop after every other time I have it out and they have blamed the problem on a bad throttle-positioning unit, a bad wire-harness, and even claimed I over revved it for a few seconds and put it into gaurdian mode(I know i didn't over rev it). Then this last time they claim that it was a voltage problem, it needs a second battery(they over looked it when they sold it) to run since it has Digital Throttle Shift & smart craft.

It is in the shop now for the 6th time in 4 months with a problem that they are still figuring out.

I am dealing with premier boating center of Lincoln, NE.

 

[bassboy1]

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Your problem was you bought a MERC. Darwinism at its best. Only a fine tuned OMC is man enough to hang on the transom of MY boats. And, radios have no place in boats anyway, so a nonworking one shouldn't be a worry.

 

[SammyJo]

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Feeling your frustration and pain! We also bought a new Lund package this spring. Ours is sitting collecting dust in our driveway while we are paying a loan for the next 10 years on a motor thats defective. Mercury doesn't have a fix for our motors problem....my heart goes out to you.

 

[ziemann]

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Your post should read Merc is junk. It sounds like the bulk of your problems are motor related. Minor things like a cheap stereo not receiving stations is hardly a cause to judge the boat junk. Lund does make a good boat. They are solid, handle big water well, and are extremely durable. If one of those things are issues to you, then you have reasonable cause to call the boat junk. I tend to also not be a Merc fan- I think a Honda hung on a Lund is a better option.

Please expound upon the other issues you mentioned the boat is having- perhaps some of us can help you out with those. I have another new Lund Mr. Pike 17 and yes, there are always a few minor things you have to tweek- but nothing that isn't very easy to adjust. I have had nothing but good experiences with both Lunds and the new Alumacrafts I have bought in the past.

Again, please be more specific on the BOAT issues you are having and perhaps we can help you with that.

 

[Silvertip]

Re: bad luck with Lund

Sammy -- what's your motor problem? There is a Mercury outboard forum on this site. You folks with engine problems should post your concerns there. There are some Merc techs that frequent that forum and can offer help.

 

[Lundman]

Re: bad luck with Lund

#1, you bought it with a Mercury (sorry, I've NEVER had luck with a merc)
#2 Mercury (Brunswick) has owned Lund for a few years now and I suspect that the quality is slipping a little.
#3 Radios never seem to work that good in boats, I've had trouble picking up FM stations from more than 20 miles away with any boat I've owned.

Yep,having a Merc on that boat was his first mistake(I know because I have been there. The boat was not the problem,but the damn motor sure was.).

Now that Brunswick owns Lund,I would be rightfully concerned about quaility
slippage(Brunswick should stick with bowling balls and leave boats alone).

Radios do not belong on boats anyway,...unless it is a pontoon and you are entertaining family and friends.

Having said those things,I believe I would point my finger at an inept service
tech who may not have known what he was doing,...but not at the boat. To
call his Lund junk is not fair to Lund since they make a very high quality boat
otherwise. I would yank that dang Merc off of that boat and put either Yamaha,Honda,or if he can get away with it,Evinrude E-TEC.

ANYTHING BUT MERCURY,...biggest pieces of junk on the water. But hey,keep
the boat,man. Just switch brand of motor. Yamaha would be my choice for
a repower.

 

[Lundman]

Re: bad luck with Lund

Thanks for the suggestion if I get the boat running right I might try switching the antenna out. I just found out my dealer looked at it and decided to put a new stereo in so maybe it works better now.

As for the motor, it has went it will come out of the shop and I will run it for an hour or two then it goes to guardian mode, rendering it useless. Back when I purchased the boat in March it had an oil leak so I took it back to the dealer. They told my a high pressure oil line on the #3 cylinder came off becuase it got crimped when the motor was installed. Yes, I ran it during break-in like this not knowing any different & it ran fine but smart craft gauges kept saying system fault without giving error.

I think the motor is ruined. You can't run one without oil, especially during break-in. I can't get them to replace motor because they claim there is no damage. However, it goes to the shop after every other time I have it out and they have blamed the problem on a bad throttle-positioning unit, a bad wire-harness, and even claimed I over revved it for a few seconds and put it into gaurdian mode(I know i didn't over rev it). Then this last time they claim that it was a voltage problem, it needs a second battery(they over looked it when they sold it) to run since it has Digital Throttle Shift & smart craft.

It is in the shop now for the 6th time in 4 months with a problem that they are still figuring out.

I am dealing with premier boating center of Lincoln, NE.

Can't get them to replace motor because they claim there is no damage!
Yep,...that sounds like Mercury. You should go Yamaha or Evinrude E-TEC.
Far better quaility motors from what I have read and heard.

 

[Fishing Junky]

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Having said those things,I believe I would point my finger at an inept service
tech who may not have known what he was doing,...but not at the boat.

Amen on that. Junky...........

 

[ziemann]

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Guys, this post was from 9 months ago- the guy only had 2 posts to his name and posted both in this thread without a response. We can pretty much dismiss this thread as a TROLL....

 

[a56legend]

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I have had a 40 hp merc, 75 hp merc, 115 merc and a 135 merc verado and I do a lot of boating. The 40 was on a lund pike and I used it for 10 years of hard fishing, many hours, never had 1 problem, didn't even change plugs. The 75 got a carb adjustment once because of bogging, never had a problem and sold it 5 years later, the 115 was a ski boat with many summers goin hard, no problems and the verado, lets just say its the best motor on the planet, fuel efficient, quiet, most power...my 135 verado will eat any other motor rated at 150 hp...to all you merc haters I must say you probably baby them to much...drive the damn things, balls to the wall, thats what they like...go fish

 

[DonHof]

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Had my Lund for over a year with a 30 hp Merc. Not a one problem! I put it in the water turn the key and it starts the first time. They could have planed a little better for weight distribution.
Two batteries and 6.6 gals of gas in the back, what were they thinking? Doesn't come on plain very good with two people in it.

 

[gasman1]

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I bought a new Lund Impact a couple of months ago. Right off told the dealer wasnt interested in a Merc and paid extra for a Honda. Pretty impressed with the Honda and I had an etec on my last boat and loved it. Had a few minor issues with the boat and just got it back and all have been repaired except the gas gauge was way out and they ordered a new sending unit for it. My last boat was a Rebel 1625ss and had no problem with it at all. I think all the boats have the odd one with a few issues but I give a thumbs up to my Impact and does it ever handle the waves nice. Sorry for your luck but have to agree with the majority on here and say your biggest problem is the Merc. Hope things get fixed for you and you get to enjoy the Lund before the summer is out.

 

[ziemann]

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You guys are posting to a thread from July 2007.

 

[DanMC]

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Yes is an old post but in Lund's deffense it is not the boat,it's the motor...that is why wne we got our Lund we refused to touch Mercury even with the proverbial " 9' pool" and went with Honda. Just couple of days ago we were at Bass Pro Shopps and out of curiosity i looked at some of the boats in the show room and i was surprised to see that a Mercury 25 Hp is Made in Japan but a 60 Hp,90 Hp are now Made in ....China :facepalm::redface::...now,really what do you expect ?
Dan (We love our Lund with Honda power,boat Made in USA,motors (two Honda) Made in Japan

 

[lost_bone]

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I trust only evinrude! i had motor whole my life! i like ETEC and 2 stroke more power.

 

[jlaur]

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I also feel your frustration. I purchased a new Lund Impact 1775 in February of this year and finally received it in late June (apparently it was back ordered). I purchased a factory Lund full topper as this boat sits in the water in a marina slip, and it leaks like crazy. I had the bilge pump going for 10 minutes last time I used it. I have sent various emails to Lund but still no reply. My dealer told me that they contract out the tops to another company and they will not likely do anything.

I would not recommend anyone buy a full topper set from Lund, you would be better off getting one after-market made to fit. I have now installed a auto bilge switch to buy me some time until I can replace the top.

The ignition switch on this boat was also faulty and had to be replaced. It has a plastic thread and a plastic nut which does not hold the cylinder in place. When you turn the key the whole assembly rotates, which now has damaged the wiring (cheap...). The carpeting in the glove box was also not properly installed and has all come unglued. One of my bow hatch covers is warped and do not lie flat.


I think Lund used to make a quality boat (prior to Brunswick owning them), but now profit margins seem to be more important than putting out a quality product.

I am very dssappointed with my first Lund purchase, and I am surprised with the lack of customer support.

John

 

[Catman16]

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I bought a 2000 Lund 1775 Pro-V new in August 1999 with a Yamaha F100 four stroke. Overall I have been happy with the boat. This year I noticed that the seat plywood was rotting and the seatback hinges were failing due to the rotted plywood. I decided to replace the plywood as the seat fabric was still in great shape (my boat is always covered and on a lift at all times). For this reason I was baffled as to how the plywood would rott when the boat was always in a dry condition. When I took out the old plywood I saw what was causing the issue. The bolts are Stainless Steel 1/4 x 20 Truss Head bolts that attach to a T-nut that is not Stainless Steel. There is a reaction going on due to dis-similar metals. Of the 48 bolts that I had to replace I was only able to un screw 8. The remainder had to be cut out. I replaced all bolts and used stainless steel t-nuts. The original plywood was 3/4" fir underlayment plywood (not finished) and I used the same product however I painted it with 3 coats of floor and deck enamel. Hopefully the seats won't fail again.

I did some research and found that this has been a Lund problem in the past. Apparently they do not build the seats in house. The use of dis-similar metals is a no no in the marine industry. This should have not happened but overall the boat has been a good product for me.