"Backwoods" camping

DaleT

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I'm getting ready to embark on an extended trip of canoeing and camping for one week. I was wondering if anyone here has done something like this and has any tips, such as food and other supplies. If you have done this what was the expierience like? I've done acouple 2 or 3 day trips but nothing this extensive.
 

NathanY

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Re: "Backwoods" camping

Make sure you take lots of water, and a first aid kit.
 

muskyone

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wwe always bring a half barrel and fishing poles
 

bubbakat

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Go to the store and get you some trail-mix food. Its full of grains sweets and all sorts of goody's but is a great source of on the run energy.Won't spoil the supper either. just put enough in a sandwich bag to do you for a day. the-other put in a sealed bag for storing. I do a lot of hiking because when we have people get lost in the mtns. we walk in and find them where you can't ride in. have stayed out for three days at a time.
 

kdmiller8251

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Get a waterfiltration system so you can use water from local sources if possible, Check like REI for that type of thing, make sure you bring rain gear and bug spray.. a couple of changes of clothing too in case you get wet...... As far as food goes try to bring dry goods, so it is less weight... Good luck <br /><br />Tallman
 

neumanns

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Dale...I have not done the canoe thing however I do camp on extended outings and the best advice I have is other than a couple extra socks and shorts and the appropriate increase in food and fuel your three day camping equipment should be all you need for the extended stay. I find that what equipment does not get used by day two usually does not get used by day ten.<br /><br />Where are you going? It sounds fun, one day when the kids are older I would like to head into the BWCA for this type of adventure.
 

Fishbusters

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More man than I am. I have never gone for more than 3 days when bare bones camping. I actually think I most likely could not do 3 days now. Water or some way to purify it would be number one on my list followed by some all in one koolaid/country time lemonade mix I can add to make a glass of water taste better because to me anything but a filter leaves a taste and some filters leave water too tasteless for my liking. The next thing on my list would be toilet paper. Some waterproof matches and other basic survival gear also come to mind as well as simple medications such as diarrhea (sp) pills, Aspirin (real stuff because you can rub it on stings and hold it by a broken/abscessed tooth for relief) as well as some other essentials like sinus meds, antibiotic cream and such. The food and such would have to be the hardest to keep and dehydrated stuff would come along but if I could (weight limitations) I would take some fresh/frozen stuff for the first few days and something like a small spice rack to add a little flavor to the dehydrated stuff. Also you would be amazed how long a fresh onion will keep and how much just the scent and taste of a real fresh onion (sauté it to cook it) can spice up an otherwise drab dehydrated meal. Dehydrated fruit and such also are good things to take along as they are sweet and tasty giving a boost of energy. Make sure you have a good sleeping mat or even air mattress because no matter how tired you are sleeping on the ground is a drag and the better you sleep/rest the better able you will be to do the things you want to do. One other suggestion is before you go pick up a paperback book you know you will enjoy because at least one day during the trip it is bound to rain which brings up one overlooked item which is a wonder for any camping trip a roll of good quality garbage bags. When the rain does come stuff anything and everything you can into these to keep things dry especially one set of clothes because being soaking wet and having to dry out is a horrible feeling. If you add some duct tape you can make an emergency shelter, rainsuit and all sorts of good things with the bags so add a roll to the pack it comes in handy and can even be used for an emergency rod repair wrapping on an eye till you can get the thread out at home and do it right. I know I left out some things and of course this list is most likely too much stuff for bare bones camping but to me adding a few nonessential items can make a trip nicer and in some cases save the trip.
 

DaleT

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Re: "Backwoods" camping

Thanks guys some of things I had already thought of but others I has not, either way all suggestions are greatly appreciated.<br />neumanns, were going down the AuSable River in the Northern Lower Penn. of MI., from Rosscommon to Oscoda. Some great water for Trout fishing, should be a blast.<br />Peter, I'm right with you on making it as comfortable as possible. I found a cot that rolls up to about a 2 foot by 6 inch cylinder and is actually pretty comfortable.<br />I figured I better do this now while I'm still able, no family commitments and money isn't to tight. <br />Again thanks for all the advice and ideas.
 

dkondelik

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back "in the day" (mid 70's), did extensive paddle/portage trips in the BWCA/Quetico area out of Ely MN. Typical trip 2 to 3 weeks.<br /><br />strongly suggest:<br />salt, seasoned salt, pepper, MARGERINE, dried onion flakes,garlic powder (for flavoring most everything), sugar, flour, a can of crisco for frying and a decent first aid kit.<br /><br />Freeze Dried Everything for breakfast (instant oatmeal works too) and dinner. Premix cakes & things with powered milk & powdered eggs. Bisquick has some dandy coffeecake & pancake recipies.<br />(fresh fish makes up the difference)<br />used water out of the lakes.<br /><br />lunch -typically saltine craskers w/ peanut butter & jelly or hard salami & cheese.<br /><br />Drinks - coffee (instant), hot chocolate, coffee, cool-aid & coffee. you'd be surprised how good flat rootbeer can be after paddling & portaging for 8 or ten hours.<br /><br />for canoe travel, the Deluth pack could not be beat. the "frame" style packs are to easy to "hang up" getting them into and out of the canoe. BUT,... for the portage, the Deluth pack WILL rip your shoulders off.. Ten minutes with a pack, and a canoe for a hat and your fingers will go numb from lack of circulation due to the pack straps. THIS IS OK though. it keeps your mind off of the mesquitoes.<br /><br />WHAT A TIME.<br />i would recomend it for just about anybody. if you have a chance to do this,.... got-for-it.
 

CalicoKid

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I have been on several weeklong plus paddle and portage trips. I try to go once a year and will be in the Quetico Wilderness in September this year for ten days. <br /><br />DaleT, you will need the basics for survival: Food, Water, Shelter, and Clothing.<br /><br />On Clothing: Lightweight, layerable clothing is a must as is light packable raingear made of goretex or nylon. A trashbag will work as a rain parka in a pinch but pretty much sucks. The cheap PVC coats and pants work too but you will be all wet inside from sweating like a pig. Fleece is great lightweight insulation. Bring plenty of fresh undercloths and socks but you can wear your outer cloths several times and in layers for different conditions and can get by without a change of pants for each day you're out there etc. The more you bring the more you have to carry!<br /><br />On shelter: If you're sleeping alone a nylon one or two man tent is enough. Don't bring in some big heavy thing, you'll have a hard time humping it around and finding a big enough level spot to pitch it. You must have a good rainfly with the tent as well as a ground cloth. Bring some parachute cord for guying the tent and fly out in case you have to weather a storm. You've camped before so I assume you have a nice sleeping bag and ground mat.<br /><br />On food: I like to bring foods that cook quickly to save fuel. Parboiled rice and beans, freezedried veggies, oatmeal, dried milk, oil, your favorite seasonings, lemon juice (for fish and to improve the tast of your water. Condensed foods like tomato paste or boxed marinara sauce can be stretched with water and seasonings for good sauces. Bisquick can be made into all kinds of complementary foods. Lots of snacks, cookies, the essential trailmix, sausage and cheese lasts a few days unless it gets too warm. Eliminate as much packaging as possible and put the foods in ziplock bags with the part of the box that has cooking instructions. Try to make a menu for the week in order to decide if you've got enough food. You don't need to follow the menu once you're in the woods, it just helps with planning. Bring enough food for a couple of extra days survival in case you have trouble. Consider how much water is in the food you want to bring, you might be able to save a lot of pack weight by finding a dehydrated alternative.<br /><br />On water: If you don't have a freshwater supply available on your trip you will need to carry a lot of water with you. If you have clean river or lake water you should have a water purifier along. Mine is a MSR brand and it fits onto Nalgene bottles and can make the water from a ditch in Mexico City safe to drink. Boiling water for ten minutes will make it safe also but consumes a LOT of fuel. Lemon juice in the water masks any residual flavors.<br /><br />Safety: Bring a GOOD first aid kit, Hydrogen Peroxide, a whistle for each camper, some candles for firestarting in the wet. Consider leaving the axe at home and use saws for firewood, a chopped foot or leg can put a whole group in a lot of danger when you are nowhere near a hospital. Bring one spare paddle (at least) for each canoe, strap it under your thwarts so it can't be lost in a capsize. Comfortable PFDs a must. Duct tape can be used to repair gashes in canoes and men. Some light wire might come in handy as well. Bring a trowel and toilet paper (in a water proof bag). Bug repellent with a high percentage of DEET will be invaluable. DO NOT keep food, soap, or anything perfumed in your tent. Hang food packs out of the reach of critters, bears in particular, at night. If you find evidence of bears in your campsite find a new one.<br /><br />Line your packs with heavy duty trash bags before packing to keep the contents dry. Bring extra bags to use as raincovers on the outside for rainstorms and nighttime dewfall. Portage packs by Granite Gear and Cooks Custom Sewing are the newer version of the Duluth pack. With their modern suspensions they are very comfortable and can carry tons of stuff. They lay nice and flat in the canoe as well.<br /><br />This got long! Most importantly, bring your patience and rember to leave the worries of the world behind!! You will be rewarded every day you are out there (even when it rains)!<br /><br />If you have any specific questions, ask! I'd be glad to help anyone get out into the wilderness and enjoy the world the way it was meant to be. Good luck and take a lot of pictures!!
 

Stratosfied

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let me suggest a container of super glue. Its small and I have used it to "stich" a wound together. I think that they make a medical grade but I always use what I have, also can be used for many other things...just a thought..
 

Carphunter

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Sorry that I am a little late with my reply. <br />I have been on one of these trips, and other than some of the "locals" making me squeal like a pig, :eek: it was an overall enjoyable experience. :D <br />Might want to slap a small 2-stroke on the canoe,........makes gettin away easier. ;)
 

Ross J

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This is going to sound a bit strange but take along an old unused bible with you.<br />I'm not knocking christians at all. The thin pages make for good reading, good first aid dressings, good fire starters, and, excellent toilet paper!<br />Its the most versatile paper there is out there!<br />Ross
 

DaleT

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Thanks all, as I mentioned before I'm just trying to see if there is anything so common that I may not have thought of it, yes there have been a things I didn't think of. <br />Carphunter, I sure I hope I don't meet any locals like you speak of. I don't do a very good squeal.
 
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