Are Chrysler motors junk and to be avoided?

WinnerCougar74

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I thought it might be interesting to start a discussion on this topic. I run through my own pros and cons on the motor I have own for the last 6 years. My Chrysler 1974 135hp was in fairly good condition when I got it. Decent compression 137-140 which has stayed the same. The lower leg was corroded. I replaced it with a used one complete for $200. I also replaced both carbs with intake manifolds for $175 since the ones that came with motor had been damaged. OK Pros and Cons
-----PRO's
1. Very cheap to buy. I got a running boat, motor and trailer for $1000
2. Parts are fairly inexpensive when compared to other 2 stroke outboards. Except for very rare parts that people jack the price way up. I have noticed the super expensive parts don't sell. I think most people move on to another motor before they will pay such very high prices. It's called not throwing good money after bad.
3. Very light motors. Weight equals speed on the water.
4.Easy to work on once you get past the learning curve. I can do the spring season service in about 2 hours.

-----CON's
1. If you aren't mechanically inclined DO NOT buy one. There are very few mechanics that will work on them and if they do they will probably make things worse. This is the single most important thing on these motors.
2. Loud. These motors are loud 2 strokes. They don't have much sound deadening built into their design.
3. They idle kinda ruff no matter no much you tweak them
4. They tend to have a lot of vibration.
5. Parts availability. With these motors the first thing you should buy is a factory parts book. Also keep in mind many force parts work. They just put letters in front of the numbers. I have ebay saved searches setup to send me emails when parts I am looking for show up. Ebay has been the best source for parts. Although so far Franz Marine has also been excellent.
6. If you are mechanically inclined you must use a website like this one. It has helped me many times although sometimes you have to sift through till you get the correct info.
7. Not great gas mileage.

I think that's about it. Considering all the pros and cons I have decided to stick with my Chrysler outboard. So now that I have got my Chrysler running ok I'm willing to live with the noise, vibrations, gas mileage and parts issues. Incidentally, I have a box full of "just in case parts". I buy them when they are cheap. It has saved me many times. I anticipate it will be the last outboard I own. I just can't see investing so much money into anything else.
 

racerone

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I have to agree.----For people that drive 3 hrs to get to the boat.---Then 1/2 hr or more to the cottage these motors are just not suitable.----New motors with local warranty / dealer support are a " no brainer" preferred option.------Some folks have lots of $$$ and no time , so they buy the help.-----Others have lots of time and no money.
 

WinnerCougar74

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What a perfect summary. The added benefit of having no money and needing to keep your own stuff running is when it fails you can get it going yourself. So it takes time to learn your own stuff but often an easy and quick fix is all that's needed. For example, I had a rather bad backfire, which seems common with these old motors and it ripped the fuel pump diaphragm well I just popped a new one on and away we went.
 

racerone

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Some of the newest parts motors I own are 4 strokes.----Too expensive to fix at $150/ hr shop rates.
 

WinnerCougar74

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Very good point. You can buy a lot of parts for $150. Once I have used my boat for a 6 day Cape Cod fishing trip. It failed twice out on the water. But I have a 9.9 trolling motor so we got back to the dock without a tow. Best $600 I ever spent. I went to my parts box and got us right back out on the water. We fished all 6 days. One of the failures was because of my lack of knowledge.
 

WinnerCougar74

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Often, manufactures just can't leave good things alone. Our Chrysler outboards have a lot of good engineering. It's built but not overbuilt. For example 2 carbs is all you need on a 4 cylinder motor. Fewer parts, fewer things to tune and fewer things to break. It's so nice to not have to take the flywheel off to check the points. Almost everything is easily accessible. Some things seem ahead of their time like the CDI ignition.
 

WinnerCougar74

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Every time I considered buying a newer outboard I just priced a few parts and ended up sticking with the Chrysler. Simple things like fuel pumps, coils, ignition boxes, carbs, etc
 

racerone

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A quick look at parts for " black " motor losts an air compressor at $1850 and a ECU / computer as NLA.----And both are absolutely needed for motor to run.-----Parts are sourced from vendors.----When shelf is empty the owners of these " newer " motors are out of luck , or season wasted getting / finding parts.
 

jerryjerry05

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I've had Forces for over 30 years and went to a single Mercury EFI 225
Should have stuck with the Forces.
Friends Yamaha with Direct Injection(??) (bought used) ended up costing thousands to get running and stay that way.
I live in Florida and any Force found here is probably salt damaged. $$$$$
 

The Force power

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I have to agree.----For people that drive 3 hrs to get to the boat.---Then 1/2 hr or more to the cottage these motors are just not suitable.----
My scenario & it works for me :D now (thanks to this forum) I'm somewhat of a guru on these motors & they work every time I'm up there.
(full disclosure) I have lots of spare components there for a quick repair if needed
 

racerone

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In cottage country most folks do not want to get their hands dirty.----Big $$$ fixes everything.-----Shops will not work on older / off brand motors.----Or $200 CA / hr I have heard.
 

briangcc

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Interesting write up and I'll have to keep that in mind while searching for the kids boat. I've seen a couple tin cans come across with Chrysler outboards hung on the back. Other than seeing them in FB Marketplace ads, they're an unknown in this area. Mostly Merc, Yammie, Honda, and Evinrude/Johnson when you walk any docks.

My kids love going out in our current boat. They're able to turn the key and it starts - no muss, no fuss. No finiking with a choke, no playing with the throttle advance. It just plain starts and idles. They actually fight over who turns on the blower and who turns the key.

So if the motor that comes on what will be their fishing boat doesn't do that, it's going to be replaced as the last thing I want is them being turned off to boating because they can't get a motor to start.

And yes, I've had that very experience with a Force by Mercury....absolutely the worst piece of junk I've ever owned.

And that's saying alot as the '56 Evinrude BigTwin 30HP had a burnt cylinder and still ran. This per one of the many marinas that worked on it.
 

racerone

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Buddy who ran a marina in cottage land said.-----Folks here buy new motors.-----When the family is at the cottage in July / August you don't want any panic phone calls.----A CEO . doctor / dentist / lawyer does not want a Tuesday morning phone call with --" Dad the boat won't start " ----in his ears.
 

jerryjerry05

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IF??? you have the $$$ Buy NEW!!!

(they're an unknown in this area) what area?
If you post on here? Post your location
 

alldodge

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I have 4 C motors, and used 3 of them to make the one I wanted. A 125 with later style lower. One of these years I really need to at least finish the boat, it's only been 9 years
 
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