Are 2 strokes an future investment?

[ultra353]

With the advent of everything going green and 2 stroke motors are being steadily replaced with 4 strokes, do you think a 2 stoke in 25-50 years will be sought after as say a classic muscle car ? I know millions were produced but as time goes by every year there will be less as well as the parts supply being No longer avail (NLA) Should we be stocking up on these now as there still pretty plentifull?

 

[JB]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

In places where carbed 2 strokes may be grandfathered they can, with good care, last to serve your grandchildren, but in many places they will be banned from use and go the way of the 12 channel CB Radio.

Direct injected 2 strokes are as clean as EFI 4 strokes and should be unaffected.

Direct injected, turbocharged 4 strokes are just around the corner and should dominate the market in time. They are even cleaner than DI 2 strokes.

 

[Bamaman1]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

No. Go ahead and use them until they fail. Then, rebuild them and run them another 25 years. The only 2 stroke moving parts are the crankshaft/flywheel pistons and rods. They're easily rebuilt.

The fuel savings and quietness of a 4 stroke is nice, but the instantaneous starting of a 2 stroke and performance is really superior.

Just hope those governmental liberals don't ever figure out a way to check your engines' exhaust emissions under water.

 

[steelespike]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

As far as an investment take the money you would spend on a 2 stroke for an investment and put it in a retirement account.
As it grows it will earn more than the 2 stroke is likely to appreciate and it will take up less space
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[dingbat]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

As far as an investment take the money you would spend on a 2 stroke for an investment and put it in a retirement account.
As it grows it will earn more than the 2 stroke is likely to appreciate and it will take up less space
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I agree.

Maybe buy a couple of phone booths while your at it. Probably be just as popular as a 2 stroke 25 years or so from now.

 

[robert graham]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

Look at it this way, you can buy a new Yamaha 90TLR 2 stroke for about $6500, weighs 261 lbs.,easy to work on and maintain, parts readily available, hang it on your transom, keep fresh, clean gas in it, probably run it for 10 or 15 years or more.....it might be hard to beat for the money$$$ My son runs a 4 stroke Yamaha 115 on his boat, loves it, thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I wouldn't swap him even for my 90C 2 stroke!....But in 10 or 20 years I believe they'll all most likely be 4 strokes!....Good Luck!

 

[ultra353]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

Well, i`m not buying them for an investment like a 401k, I guess i should have said asked if a 2 stroke will holds its value over time? Some of the ones i`m seeing from the late `60- early `70`s seem to hold their value quite well. I`m thinking not many people have or want to spend 3-4k on a new motor.
I like to buy them and fix`em up or part them out as a side hobby, not much profit ( a little if its cheap to get).

 

[robert graham]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

I don't picture older 2 stroke outboards getting like 429 Mustangs or Yenko Camaros. Maybe make a few bucks buying/selling older motors and parts. Good Luck!

 

[Bamaman1]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

Robert Graham: 10 or 15 years? Try 25-30 years lifespan in fresh water. My Yamaha 115 hp 2 stroke was top of the line when i bought it new in 1985. It still runs great, and my pontoon will accelerate like a bass boat until it "hits the wall" at 30 mph. New Parts are still available for the motor, since they used it for many, many years without modifications.

I'd hate to think how long my motor would last if my boathouse was 3' longer (kept dry), and it I ever winterized the engine. All I've ever done is clean the carbs. twice, change the impeller once and change the plugs. The WallyWorld house brand outboard motor oil has done a good job. I think I'll do proper maintenance this Spring, however.

Little did I know when I bought the pontoon boat (at age 35) that it could be the last boat I ever had to purchase. You can re-engine them and go again. But, the interior is now needing attention.

 

[NSBCraig]

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

Everything old has some value.

Look at an old flathead car engine- junk by todays standard but worth money if you find one.

My motor is 35 years old and it's still worth money.

Lots of guys on here search far and wide for much older motors, cool old boats don't look as cool with a new motor on them.

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: Are 2 strokes an future investment?

just because an old motor is "worth money" does not mean it is an investment.
First, you will never recapture the price of a new motor; first day depreciation will exceed 20 year's inflation.
Second, your money should double about every 10 years (used to be, maybe 15 now). Buy a $1,000 used motor and it won't be worth $2,000 in 15 years--holding value is a bad investment; it must increase.
Third, you pay for storage, even in your garage. Sure, one 15 hp in the corner, practically, is free, but if you are investing in several, do this: divide your square footage of your house by your annual mortgage payment, to get your square foot value. If it's $18/foot, and each motor takes up 2 square feet, they cost you $36 a year to store, or $720 over 20 years.

That's not to say hanging on to an old motor, or grabbing an almost free one to store, is a bad idea, but you are kidding yourself to call it an "investment."

The same thing goes when people take up the whole garage for a boat and think it's "free storage." Sure, it's a choice, or in some cases use of vacant space, but few garages of guys like us are empty.