Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

waterinthefuel

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I ordered something from them online, and then wanted to cancel the order. I call the 1 800 number and it rings and rings and nobody answers. I left a message on their machine the one time it picked up and I sent them an email.

That was on 8-25-07. I then get charged for this order on September 5th and didn't receive anything in the mail yet. Does anybody know for a fact that this is a valid company? Their website still shows 2006 at the bottom. Thank God I have this on CC as otherwise I'd be out 60 bucks.
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Yes, I have
The name communications is a joke as they mostly sell hidden cameras and microphones so cheating husbands can be caught by their wives.
They also sell some electronic device that causes people to get real sick.
Their products are on the edge of being illegal and I would not be amazed if the feds shut them down.
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Yea all I bought was some license plate covers to defeat the red light cameras going up in my town. Then I canceled within 5 minutes of placing the order, but can't get in touch with anybody to do so.
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Yea all I bought was some license plate covers to defeat the red light cameras going up in my town. Then I canceled within 5 minutes of placing the order, but can't get in touch with anybody to do so.

They tested these things on "Mythbusters" and proved them to be ineffective, I would make sure to get that order canceled. The only thing that beat the camera was speed and that was from a jet powered dragster going 300+.
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Yea all I bought was some license plate covers to defeat the red light cameras going up in my town. Then I canceled within 5 minutes of placing the order, but can't get in touch with anybody to do so.

Stopping for red lights is a good thing......;)
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

I stop for red lights. I even stop at stop signs.
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Obviously you guys don't have red light cameras in your town, or else are ignorant on how they work or the circumstances that lead up to a ticket. And no, the license plate blockers work, that's for sure. In fact they work so well the cops are confiscating them. The spray on stuff doesn't work, but the plastic covers do, nobody is disputing that. I can produce photos that prove they work.



First, red light cameras are indiscriminatory, meaning don't discriminate between someone running it just because they don't want to stop or someone running it because they are fearful of getting slamming in the back if they hit the brakes. You get the same ticket.

Second, people are getting tickets for "right on red" violations. The cameras are unable to determine the difference between running a red light and making a right on red, as the camera will detect a "violation" either way and snap a photo of it. You get a ticket in the mail.

Third, it is a known act that when cameras are installed they reduce the yellow light time to help increase revenue. They have been shown overwhelmingly to only put money in the pockets of the company that installs them. If they get 70 bucks for every ticket issued, is the point to make you safer or to make money?

Fourth, if you are on a motorcycle and hit the brakes to avoid a ticket you could be killed, when it would have been safer and more logical to run the light than get smashed by a flatbed. I should not have to pay 100 bucks because I choose not to get killed.

4. The traffic engineers who install these cameras are all-too-frequently tempted to reduce the amount of time that the traffic light stays "yellow" before turning "red." Precisely because it will likely
increase the number of drivers who run red lights, this alteration allows the surveillance system attached to the traffic light to catch more red-light runners, and thus generate more revenues for the state (see below). Unfortunately, indeed, tragically, altering the timing of the traffic light also causes more rear-end collisions, and thus more injuries to drivers and their passengers.

[In New York] one photograph is provided with the car in the intersection, the light showing red, and a numerical indicator of the number of seconds (and tenths of a second) [that] the light was red. However, this does not provide sufficient information to establish the color of the light at the time the car entered the intersection. Without knowing the speed the car was travelling and with no accurate way to judge distances (or often even tell where the actual threshold of the intersection is), all you can do is trust that the camera would not have taken the picture if the person didn't run the light. Generally, a sensor is placed at or very near the threshold. But there's no good way to know which part of the car the sensor tripped on. It's always possible that the front of the car entered the intersection [when the light was] green and [that] a second later, the rear of the car entered the intersection on [when the light was] red and tripped the sensor. There is no way for anyone (human or machine) to know what color the light was when the front of the car entered the intersection.

In October 2002, when the Mayor of Washington DC admitted that his city's traffic cameras produced "money and safety," the Automobile Association of America withdrew its support for them.


http://www.notbored.org/traffic-cameras.html

You need to read this website, a study by the federal highway administration safety people about red light cameras. They reduce side collisions, but increase rear-end collisions at intersections where they are located.

http://www.tfhrc.gov/safety/pubs/05049/

And these, that clearly prove that these cameras don't work, work intermittently, and someone charge the wrong person with the crime, i.e. someone may have been driving your car at the time of the violation, but since it's registered to you, you get the ticket.

http://www.highwayrobbery.net/

http://www.motorists.org/photoenforce/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/03/AR2005100301844.html
"DC's red light cameras fail to reduce accidents"
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Hmmmmmm..........
All I see is a bunch of excuses to break the law....:rolleyes:
Seattle does have some, but they do post in the paper where they are.....;)
It does seem like it is a revenue booster......
Imagine that, BIG GUBMINT & BIG CORPS working hand in hand to boost profit.....:):);)
I say vote out the bums who decided to put them up......:D
 

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When I lived in Jerusalem,Israel,the cameras were installed in special boxes,although they were run and operated by the municipality.
One week after they had been installed they had all either been stolen or rendered inoperable by enterprising or maybe angry drivers......
Because of the prohibitive price of the cameras and software,they were never replaced.
This was in the eighties.
They were introduced together with the " Denver Boot".A locksmith found one on his car in front of the police station where he had just installed some locks.He picked the lock,replaced it with a different cylinder and put it on the local police chief's private vehicle....
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Hmmmmmm..........
All I see is a bunch of excuses to break the law....:rolleyes:

Fourth, if you are on a motorcycle and hit the brakes to avoid a ticket you could be killed, when it would have been safer and more logical to run the light than get smashed by a flatbed. I should not have to pay 100 bucks because I choose not to get killed.


You see that as an excuse? I see that as a reason to live. Obviously you don't own a motorcycle.
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Fourth, if you are on a motorcycle and hit the brakes to avoid a ticket you could be killed, when it would have been safer and more logical to run the light than get smashed by a flatbed. I should not have to pay 100 bucks because I choose not to get killed.


You see that as an excuse? I see that as a reason to live. Obviously you don't own a motorcycle.

I rode street bikes from age 19 to 43. I found myself in the situation of having to run a red light to prevent being struck NEVER!

So from experience as a biker in suburbs and cities, it does sound like a thinly veiled excuse to run red lights.
 

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I'm in total agreement with waterinthefuel! and I don't run redlights, or stop sign's!, but heaven forbid if you delay just a little too long,,, my wife was ticketed by one a few yrs ago in the Bronx NY, it did go red as she passed under it, while she was following me in her car, behind a moving truck I was driving, when we moved to upstate NY. We just kind of thought it was a lttle unfair, that particular light was on an intersection that was one of the busiest, most congested in the area, so bad, you could get caught in traffic underneath it, and get ticketed standing still, a real money maker for the city! but how can you argue, or state your case to a computerized camera?! Shades of "George Orwell and his book 1984" Big brother is watching, and waiting for you to slip up in any possible way, to nab you, and make you pay, with points, and or cash!
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

:rolleyes:
I'm in total agreement with waterinthefuel! and I don't run redlights, or stop sign's!, but heaven forbid if you delay just a little too long,,, my wife was ticketed by one a few yrs ago in the Bronx NY, it did go red as she passed under it, while she was following me in her car, behind a moving truck I was driving, when we moved to upstate NY. We just kind of thought it was a lttle unfair, that particular light was on an intersection that was one of the busiest, most congested in the area, so bad, you could get caught in traffic underneath it, and get ticketed standing still, a real money maker for the city! but how can you argue, or state your case to a computerized camera?! Shades of "George Orwell and his book 1984" Big brother is watching, and waiting for you to slip up in any possible way, to nab you, and make you pay, with points, and or cash!
You are not supposed to enter a traffic intersection if you are not sure that you can get through it........;)
Would you stop on the railroad tracks?.......:rolleyes:
Those who get those tickets should get a gridlockin' ticket as well....
I did drive a street bike in my earlier years, & ya do need to drive defensively, but the "He's coming up my back door too fast to stop" theory ain't workin' for me....
There is something wrong if you can't either stop for the light in a normal manner or have to speed up & still not make it.....;)
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

testosterone communications... Isn't that when you just beat one another up???​
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

Fourth, if you are on a motorcycle and hit the brakes to avoid a ticket you could be killed, when it would have been safer and more logical to run the light than get smashed by a flatbed. I should not have to pay 100 bucks because I choose not to get killed.


You see that as an excuse? I see that as a reason to live. Obviously you don't own a motorcycle.

And once again, regardless of what you want it to be, this is not a motorcycle. It's a scooter. Of course you could close your eyes and pretend it's a motorcycle, but then you might run a red light and get a ticket:D:


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:rolleyes:
You are not supposed to enter a traffic intersection if you are not sure that you cannot get through it........;)
Would you stop on the railroad tracks?.......:rolleyes:
Those who get those tickets should get a gridlockin' ticket as well....
I did drive a street bike in my earlier years, & ya do need to drive defensively, but the "He's coming up my back door too fast to stop" theory ain't workin' for me....
There is something wrong if you can't either stop for the light in a normal manner or have to speed up & still not make it.....;)

Well apparently you don't know this particular interesection, it is in a bad neighborhood, in the congested Bronx where it is at the top of a hill on an exit from the Cross Bronx Expressway, throwing you onto a service road, leading directly to the Bronx river parkway entrance, maybe 4 blocks long between them, and maybe thousands of cars go through there in a day, and always a struggle to merge in, and get to the right at this light, probably the worst place to put a camera! Hence the word "entrapment" and City knows it well! I bet they make a fortune here! There are no signs warning of a camera there either, as some places do, and I'm not talking a bike here, although I drove a bike also all over L I, and the city for years, without any problem, and I'm still alive. I'd really like to know, if that camera will give you a ticket if you're 1/2 through the intersection when the light goes from yellow to red??? If that be the case, I suppose you'll tell me that's ok too? I don't know if Seattle WA. is as congested, or crazy as NY, the Bronx, and the other boroughs here?
 

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Well apparently you don't know this particular interesection, it is in a bad neighborhood, in the congested Bronx where it is at the top of a hill on an exit from the Cross Bronx Expressway, throwing you onto a service road, leading directly to the Bronx river parkway entrance, maybe 4 blocks long between them, and maybe thousands of cars go through there in a day, and always a struggle to merge in, and get to the right at this light, probably the worst place to put a camera! Hence the word "entrapment" and City knows it well! I bet they make a fortune here! There are no signs warning of a camera there either, as some places do, and I'm not talking a bike here, although I drove a bike also all over L I, and the city for years, without any problem, and I'm still alive. I'd really like to know, if that camera will give you a ticket if you're 1/2 through the intersection when the light goes from yellow to red??? If that be the case, I suppose you'll tell me that's ok too? I don't know if Seattle WA. is as congested, or crazy as NY, the Bronx, and the other boroughs here?[/quote]
Nah, that's why I moved out here.....;)
NY is a nice place to visit, but I would not want to live or work there any more......:)
 

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Re: Anybody heard of Telstarone communications?

They have 352-628-9970 listed on their website. I called it (gotta love having way too many mobile minutes) and got an answering machine.
 
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