Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Jonnybbad

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I've been looking to replace my main anchor which seems to be a little overkill. The anchor I have for my '83 Regal Ambassador 245XL currently is a 25lb Danforth, which I acquired used for a ridiculously low price. I would plan on using the existing anchor and rode as a spare or additional anchor to put a second anchor off the bow or off the stern.

My primary use is on the St.Croix (soft sandy bottom) and Mississippi (mud bottom) rivers, with infrequent lake usage on a couple smaller lakes in the area. I would like to do weekend outings, which I have not yet been able to do and I would like to be able to anchor overnight without too much concern (probably with a combination of two anchors). I was planning on getting a 14lb danforth and 100ft of 1/2 three strand rode and maybe six feet of 1/4" galvanized proof coil chain. I'll take a pic of my bow maybe later this week and you can expect a new and exciting thread asking how you think I should mount this anchor. Thanks much for your input folks.



 

carribbean soul

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

13lb anchor and minimum 10' of chain, 300' of 1/2" rode 600' spool may be cheaper.
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

I was planning on getting a 14lb danforth and 100ft of 1/2 three strand rode and maybe six feet of 1/4" galvanized proof coil chain.

That sounds about right, tho a bit more chain would be desirable. I have a 13 or 14 lb. Danforth on mine (sandy/muddy bottom conditions) and it holds well. How deep is the water you boat in? IMO, 100' of rope will provide enough scope for about 15' of water in some fairly windy conditions, but not a hard blow. More length is always better.

carribean soul, I'd agree that as much rope as possible is advisable, but the OP's anchor locker probably won't accommodate 300' of it. I have about 180' on mine and I'm planning to lop off about 30' of that because the rode piles up in my locker and jams the windlass when I retrieve.
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

your rode should be sized for a 10:1 scope. so if your in 30' of water, 300' of rode.

I am running a 13# danforth, 8' of chain, and 200' of rode for the front anchor, and a 13#, 8' chain and 150' for the aft anchor,

I am however in 15' of water.

your 14# anchor will do fine. I would go with 8-10' of chain. as for mounting the anchor, I use anchor chocks and a velcro tie wrap.
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Rocna anchors rule, check out their website. They've got a chart there to help you pick the most efficient anchor for YOUR boat. I would plan on between 7-1 and 10-1 scope for your rode and no less than a boat length of chain. These are the standards that we were taught to follow in our Power Squadron courses. You can shorten up considerably when you anchor for a quick break on a calm day, but if you plan on staying overnight you will sleep a lot better if you follow these general guidelines. Also, Rocna anchors claim to be able to reset themselves within a few feet of drag, so that's why they are my choice. Good luck.
 

Jonnybbad

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Good input folks. Yeah I forgot to mention, depending on the river levels, I can plan to usually anchor in 15 to 30 feet of water. I'm not sure what the rope locker will hold. I'm guessing not much more than 100ft of 1/2" looking at it (with trouble free operation anyways. There is no access door from above). I suppose I could get 150ft instead and hack off some if need be and keep it aboard for general usage. I figured for overnighting I could just find a shallower spot around 10 or 15ft to anchor out in depending on conditions, or potentially beach if need be. I don't really like the thought of eating up my keel any more than it already is though, so I would like to avoid beaching where I can. I also hear its not as nice to sleep with the action the boat makes while beached.

Oh, and I'm a cheap arse. I just don't see myself ponying up for a Fortress or Rocna. One of those would equal about ten percent of the value of the boat, which seems excessive to me. Thank you for your suggestion though. The Danforth brand anchor I'm looking at is under $50 with shipping.
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Beach your boat? I have never beached mine but put a KeelGuard on anyway.

Good input folks. Yeah I forgot to mention, depending on the river levels, I can plan to usually anchor in 15 to 30 feet of water. I'm not sure what the rope locker will hold. I'm guessing not much more than 100ft of 1/2" looking at it (with trouble free operation anyways. There is no access door from above). I suppose I could get 150ft instead and hack off some if need be and keep it aboard for general usage. I figured for overnighting I could just find a shallower spot around 10 or 15ft to anchor out in depending on conditions, or potentially beach if need be. I don't really like the thought of eating up my keel any more than it already is though, so I would like to avoid beaching where I can. I also hear its not as nice to sleep with the action the boat makes while beached.

Oh, and I'm a cheap arse. I just don't see myself ponying up for a Fortress or Rocna. One of those would equal about ten percent of the value of the boat, which seems excessive to me. Thank you for your suggestion though. The Danforth brand anchor I'm looking at is under $50 with shipping.
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Oh, and I'm a cheap arse. I just don't see myself ponying up for a Fortress or Rocna. One of those would equal about ten percent of the value of the boat, which seems excessive to me. Thank you for your suggestion though. The Danforth brand anchor I'm looking at is under $50 with shipping.

Going the cheapest route on an anchor may be a bit of false economy. There may be a time where you really need it to hold. Taking short cuts with the anchor itself or the rode may lead to a situation where it won't work and you end up damaging the boat (or worse). Getting grounded because the anchor wouldn't hold will cost a lot more in repairs than the extra $50 or $100 spent getting the right set up in the first place.

A decent anchor and proper rode is sort of like insurance. You shouldn't have to use it, but it's really good to have when you need it.
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

I'm a fan of the Lewmar Claw anchor. I have a 16.5# and have never had it drag in either sand or mud. It is pretty heavy so it may not be your best option if you don't have a windless and pulpit.
 

Jonnybbad

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Sounds like a lot of support for the 14lb Danforth I proposed. I'm thinking maybe I'll do that with 150ft of 1/2" line instead of 100ft if it will work in the anchor rode locker and we'll up the chain length from 6ft to 8ft. Damn near everyone around here has a "chain free" anchor rode or rarely maybe 4ft or so, so that will put most to shame in the anchor department. I'll always have the 25lb Danforth stowed away in the engine compartment or maybe secured to the bow for a secondary anchor and will plan to put out two anchors if overnighting at anchor.


I'm a fan of the Lewmar Claw anchor. I have a 16.5# and have never had it drag in either sand or mud. It is pretty heavy so it may not be your best option if you don't have a windless and pulpit.

You can see in the pics I posted in post #1 that I have a pulpit, but no windlass. This particular anchor was one I was considering also as a matter of fact. I'm already looking at 14lb'er, 2.5lbs isn't far off. I may even pick it up in addition to the Danforth. This price is pretty good in my opinion and I would like to try another style anchor. Or I guess if I was gonna shell out for two I could even consider just getting ONE of these instead: Lewmar Delta Fast-Set Anchor, 14 lbs 0057406 - iboats, though this idea doesn't rank as high for me.


That sounds about right, tho a bit more chain would be desirable.
Addressed, I think. We're gonna add a couple more feet.

carribean soul, I'd agree that as much rope as possible is advisable, but the OP's anchor locker probably won't accommodate 300' of it
I find this statement to be true. Though I guess a guy could always store more above deck somewhere or maybe pull the excess of the boat end into the cabin though the access door to the rode locker?. I do usually overkill most things, but I think this may be one that I might just settle for "just right". No real deep water around here, but what do you guys think of that thought?

your rode should be sized for a 10:1 scope. so if your in 30' of water, 300' of rode.

I am running a 13# danforth, 8' of chain, and 200' of rode for the front anchor, and a 13#, 8' chain and 150' for the aft anchor,

I am however in 15' of water.

your 14# anchor will do fine. I would go with 8-10' of chain. as for mounting the anchor, I use anchor chocks and a velcro tie wrap.

Thanks for the sound advise Mr.Danforth LOL. I can make out the previous residence of anchor chocks on my pulpit. I was considering that (don't think that will fit there with the current setup and the 14lb'er) or maybe one of these https://windline.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=117, but I'll plan to start a new thread on this topic. I believe it could be a popular one.

Going the cheapest route on an anchor may be a bit of false economy.
Advise heeded and I certainly am aware, though I don't think a person needs a BMW to drive on the roadway, when my Ford works just fine. That's all I'm sayin' here. I am planning on using two anchors, one of which is a 25lb Danforth, when not attending to the boat. I plan to put them both off the bow at 60 degrees apart.

Beach your boat? I have never beached mine but put a KeelGuard on anyway.
I'll consider that for the future. I've researched that and I read somewhere here that the ones you can apply yourself tend to come off. Don't know if that's true, but I'm not looking to pay for someone else to put one on if so.


I really do appreciate you guys sharing your learned knowledge on this matter. Real world experience is much better than looking at a sizing guide that says a 9lb'er will be sufficient, which I didn't really think was true. :eagerness:
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Since I plan on doing some lake boating where the bottom is mixed sand and rocks, I just picked up a 16.5 lbs Lewmar claw and am attaching it to an 8' chain rode with 150 ft rope. My backup is two Danforths (one as a dedicated stern anchor).

Looks like you wandered into a Pontoon Lagoon in that first photo. Did they chase you out?
 

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Since your anchoring in 15-30' of water you will need 300' of anchor rode. 5:1 scope at a minimum. 10:1 scope for heavy seas.

anchoring.com has the lowest prices that i found for rode.
 

Jonnybbad

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Since your anchoring in 15-30' of water you will need 300' of anchor rode. 5:1 scope at a minimum. 10:1 scope for heavy seas.

anchoring.com has the lowest prices that i found for rode.

Oh wow, that is a good price! I was gonna buy from seaboundsupply.com. I've gotten a lot of good prices there, but this is even better! I suppose I'll go for 200ft of 1/2in now with 20ft of chain. That's how it comes and boy is that a nice price for coming with the chain too. 200ft is the max they sell in three strand it appears. For the $10 price difference between the 150ft and 200ft its a no-brainer. If They sold it in 300ft lengths and the price was right I suppose I would just jump on it, but it doesn't appear to be so. Not sure I want to hump all that chain, but I suppose I'll give it a try.

I don't really see dropping anchor in 30ft much. The river around here isn't that high in many spots unless we're really getting some rain, but of course the river flow picks up then too. It was like this for a bit until last week, but then the whole St.Croix is a no wake zone (no fun/high ticket potential), so I don't tend to go out then anyways. The vast majority of the time I see myself in 15-20ft. The 30ft is just on occasion, so I would think I should be good with the 200. If I ever get to overnight I'll just drop the 25lb'er and find shallower water. Sound like an acceptable plan? Thanks so much for the intel! :whoo:
 

Jonnybbad

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Re: Anchor recommendation for 24' cabin cruiser

Since I plan on doing some lake boating where the bottom is mixed sand and rocks, I just picked up a 16.5 lbs Lewmar claw and am attaching it to an 8' chain rode with 150 ft rope. My backup is two Danforths (one as a dedicated stern anchor).

Looks like you wandered into a Pontoon Lagoon in that first photo. Did they chase you out?

Yeah, they sure did. Those tooners are a violent bunch! LOL
That was the sea trial on Forest Lake in the town of Forest Lake the day I bought her towards the end of last summer. We are at a marina here.
 
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