American Boats suitable for Export.

Kiwi Phil

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I am currently importing 2nd Hand MacGregor Trailer Sailers from the USA. It is going rather nicely for me but I am considering extending my range of boats.
This is what I am contemplating at the moment.
1st my reasoning:
Because the size of the most readily available tow-type vehicles in Australia are the:
Toyota Landcruiser (3.5ton), and Prado (2.5 Ton)
Nissan Patrol (3.5ton) and Nivara (2.4-3 ton)
Mitsubishi Prado, Hyundai Terrican etc (around 2.5 ton)

Australian trailer boats don?t often go over 21?.
These boats are very expensive and the American equivalent (in weight) far exceeds ours in general all round standard and is much cheaper.
The Americans seem to have approached buyers from a different angle.
To me, it is almost as if they are marketing the boat at the buyers wife?..by that I mean, they have a well designed and furnished interior, with all the extras a woman would want in a boat (enclosed flushing head, galley, dinette, attractive soft furnishings, and nice clean (fibreglass) lines.

I also believe most boaters can not afford the larger heavier boats. Not just because of the price, but more because of the cost of a wet berth and the maintenance (annual lift and clean and service etc).

So my thinking is this: import boats that meet the above criteria and sell them at a much reduced price than the Aussie equivalent.

The boat that comes to mind (and there are a few of them here already) is something like the Bayliner 2355 Cierra Sunbridge, on a trailer.
I don?t know how you categorise them, but to me they are like a pocket or mini cruiser, and that is the style of boat I am seeking.

I know Bondos thinking on Bayliners. My concern is: he may be well positioned to give me a lot of facts and figures on this project.

Now I do have logistical hurdles to overcome (shipping, compliance etc) but is just a system I have to work out.

The 1st question I have for you blokes is:
What makes and models of Boats are there available in your country that are similar to the Bayliner I mentioned. (Mini or Pocket Cruisers).
It would be good if there is a manufacturer making something similar to the Bayliner 2355 below 23? in length. Doesn?t matter if it is in-board or outboard.

I have a lot of other hurdles to jump, but establishing just what is available is the 1st one, so bear with me chaps.
As always, any comment or criticism is welcomed.

Cheers
Phillip
 

tommays

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Re: American Boats suitable for Export.

Hi Phil

Well Searay for example makes many small cabin boats and they would be a Cuddy cabin in the 21' range and in Searay and most other brands they Jump to 24' once you start to have a real cabin

There are many good brands like Stingray,Regal ,BUT all of them become very heavy even the 215 Searay Cuddy is 4600# dry and with a trailer will push 6000 #

I am very aware of this because the basic American V-6 truck has a 5000# towing limit and you have to get into a very costly truck to be able to tow the bigger boats

I drive a 4.3 Silverado that gets 20 MPG and not wanting a daily driver that drops into the 14 MPG range has always been a big part of my boat picks


I also don't have that much problem with Bayliner i own a very similar 1995 Maxum 2000SC Cuddy and i like it better than most of the new boats i have been looking at


National Geographic TV just did a show on building a TOP RATED BOAT BRAND and the reality of watching a 26' 100,000 boat being built with chopper gun fibrglass made me think much less of there brand :eek:
 

rolmops

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Re: American Boats suitable for Export.

I do not know anything about the type of boats you are interested,but asa far as towing capacity is concerned....,when you mentioned tons,did you mean 1000 kilograms or 2000 pounds? It does not seem to be much of a difference but at 3.5 or 4 ton the difference becomes half a ton which is substantial.
 

Kiwi Phil

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Re: American Boats suitable for Export.

I better understand the different weights.
We are metric.
What we call 3.5 tons is metric, so we will go back to calling it tonnes. Therefore 3.5 tonnes = 3,500kilograms = or 7,716lb.
Now 3,500 kg's = 3.44 Long Tons (UK) or
3.85Short Tons (US).
I am all at sea with the UK and US tons.
So for the purpose of this exercise, which are we going to use?

How are the manufacturers boat specs listed in your country....I think it is pounds....isn't it?

We should pick one and stick to it.

Cheers
Phillip
 

Dunaruna

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Re: American Boats suitable for Export.

Talking in Lbs is probably the easiest Phil.

You omitted a tow vehicle, the Discovery. It's a POS, but very popular downunder. It's rated for 7700Lbs.

The only other choice is the F150 or 250, the latter being discontinued in a righthand drive version so we won't get them anymore (grey imports excluded). I'd be interested to know what the 150 is rated to tow.

IMO, the bayliner may or may not be a good boat, but they look good, and they will sell.

Scuttlebutt is that the cruiser will go to 8800lbs in the near future with weight distribution system. There is also talk of Lesters big chebby coming downunder.
 

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Re: American Boats suitable for Export.

Woops, major brain fart moment.

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