A history lesson on Franklin and the Turkey

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I thought this was interesting.<br />Bassy<br />Franklin on the turkey <br />Vain and silly, true, but a 'bird of courage.'<br /><br />Here is what Ben Franklin wrote:<br /><br />Others object to the Bald Eagle as looking too much like a Dindon, or Turkey. For my own part, I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen as the Representative of our Country; he is a Bird of bad moral Character; he does not get his living honestly; you may have seen him perch'd on some dead Tree, near the River where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing-Hawk; and, when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the support of his Mate and young ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him, and takes it from him.<br /><br />With all this Injustice, he is never in good Case; but, like those among Men who live by Sharping and Robbing, he is generally poor, and often very lousy.<br /><br />Besides, he is a rank Coward; the little KingBird, not bigger than a Sparrow, attacks him boldly and drives him out of the District. He is therefore by no means a proper emblem for the brave and honest Cincinnati of America, who have driven all the KingBirds from our Country; though exactly fit for that Order of Knights, which the French call Chevaliers d'Industrie.<br /><br />I am, on this account, not displeas'd that the Figure is not known as a Bald Eagle, but looks more like a Turk'y. For in Truth, the Turk'y is in comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America. Eagles have been found in all Countries, but the Turk'y was peculiar to ours; the first of the Species seen in Europe being brought to France by the Jesuits from Canada, and serv'd up at the Wedding Table of Charles the Ninth. He is, though a little vain and silly, it is true, but not the worse emblem for that, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards, who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on.
 

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Re: A history lesson on Franklin and the Turkey

Did Franklin ever mention that stuffed bald eagle did not taste as good! :eek:
 
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Wasn't Franklin a Liberal? :eek: Did you cut and paste that or re-type it? I had never seen the word withal before. I know that the style of writing has changed, so I am not trying to be a smart adollars. ;) What grade do you teach? My mother was a First Grade Teacher and whenever reproached for an error in spelling or grammar, she would just smile and say, "well I am only a First Grader." :D
 

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Re: A history lesson on Franklin and the Turkey

Great post Bassy :) I always love reading the more obscure writings of the founders. I think it can really help us gain a better understanding of their true personalities.
 

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Originally posted by technonotS'illaround:<br /> Wasn't Franklin a Liberal? :eek: Did you cut and paste that or re-type it? I had never seen the word withal before. I know that the style of writing has changed, so I am not trying to be a smart adollars. ;) What grade do you teach? My mother was a First Grade Teacher and whenever reproached for an error in spelling or grammar, she would just smile and say, "well I am only a First Grader." :D
Its a Cut and Paste,Techno. Guess I should have expressed that. The words were the focus, not the spelling. I didn't want to edit the piece. Just show it the way it was written.<br />Bassy
 
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And I guess my other question is not going to be answered><br />Nice of you to notice Alden>
 

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Techno.........<br />I think your other question was whether BF was a Liberal. I'm no expert, but my understanding is that in those days any who opposed the Crown were considered "Liberals". The L's were the ones who promoted personal accountability, freedom from gov't telling them how to live/work/talk/think, etc.<br /><br />A lot has changed it seems.<----------IMO
 

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Oh, you want to know what grade I teach. I teach 4th grade right now, after 2 months of a 5th grade. I teach all grades and my usual spot is with Independent Study, which could be anything from K through adult school. So, kind of a tricky question. <br />As far as weather Ben was a Liberal, I haven't a clue.<br />Bassy
 
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The question concerning Franklins' political persuasion was a rhetorical question. A Smiley Face Comment. It is notable that the difference wasn't noted but was noticed. ;) <br />Alden, I am not paying you to think. :p ;) :D <br />My mother started her teaching career at 16, she had all 8 grades in one room. She was left handed and forced to change. Started lst grade at four and graduated just short of 16. 2 semesters at teachers college and a teacher for fifty years. (less ten years to start a family) She said 4th Grade and 7th were the most challenging. My daughter is also a teacher.
 

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I also come from a teaching family. Mom was a teacher and her Mom was a teacher. Grandma also taught in the one room classroom with all grades. Oh that must have been fun. <br />Bassy
 
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