96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

[trendsetter240]

I just finished the rebuild on a 1996 evinrude 115. I found a little surprise that the previous owner left for me in that there is a fuel nozzle snapped off the bottom of the OMS pump.

This is the fuel inlet nozzle that comes from the vapor separator pump. See attached pics. I am holding the broken nozzle.

Can this piece be repaired or replaced without purchasing an entire new pump? If I do have to purchase a new pump is it less expensive to buy a straight fuel pump rather than OMS since I am premixing anyways?

Thanks for any help.

Cheers

 

[emdsapmgr]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

That's a very expensive pump. It would be too bad to junk a working pump for lack of a part. Components of the fuel pump are not usually sold separately. However, I'd call the Bombardier consumer hotline and ask one of the experts if that nipple could be sold separately, in your special case. Give them a call at their Waukegan, Ill phone: 1-847-689-7090. Also, Bombardier makes a similar pump (but cheaper) which does not have the oil-mixing pump feature. For pre-mix only. You'll save about $100 over the price of a standard OMS replacement pump. When you get Bombardier on the phone, inquire about this other pump.

 

[Faztbullet]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Ouch.... new pump time :grumpy:

 

[Crosbyman]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Can't you try cutting /drilling out the broken part, then tapping the body and screeing & gluing in in a conventional thredded brass nipple of the correct size ? should be just as good a new

 

[trendsetter240]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Can't you try cutting /drilling out the broken part, then tapping the body and screeing & gluing in in a conventional thredded brass nipple of the correct size ? should be just as good a new

I might look into this. The nipple is not attached now I was just holding it in the picture.

Both the nipple and housing are plastic though. Any suggestions on what type of sealant I could use that wouldn't deteriorate in gasoline?

Cheers

 

[trendsetter240]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

That's a very expensive pump. It would be too bad to junk a working pump for lack of a part. Components of the fuel pump are not usually sold separately. However, I'd call the Bombardier consumer hotline and ask one of the experts if that nipple could be sold separately, in your special case. Give them a call at their Waukegan, Ill phone: 1-847-689-7090. Also, Bombardier makes a similar pump (but cheaper) which does not have the oil-mixing pump feature. For pre-mix only. You'll save about $100 over the price of a standard OMS replacement pump. When you get Bombardier on the phone, inquire about this other pump.

Thanks, I will try calling them tomorrow when it's a business day. I agree it would be shame to junk the entire working pump just for a broken piece of plastic!

 

[boobie]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

How about JB Weld, they say it works on plastic ?? Just a thought.

 

[trendsetter240]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

How about JB Weld, they say it works on plastic ?? Just a thought.

Yeah? I'll check it out. It has to be resistant to gasoline though.

Thanks.

 

[daselbee]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Wouldn't that 115 run fine on the old "house style" fuel pump? He is premixing anyway.
I thought the old pumps put out more than enough fuel to run a 115.

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Ehhh...more like this picture...note the three nipples. Gas in, gas out, pulse to run it.

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That pic didn't work....look up Evinrude fuel pumps, select images...you will see it.

OK here it is.
http://www.iboats.com/mall/image/view/1/7/18-7353_2_2.jpg

 

[trendsetter240]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Ok, I cleaned and dried both pieces and bonded them with super glue. I put a nice bead around the outer edge as well as the inner edge. When it dries I will apply a bead of sealant around the outer edge and let that dry too.

I'll let you know how this turns out. Thanks for the tips everyone.

 

[boobie]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Did you read your super glue tube closely ?? I can remember reading some place not to use super glue around fuel products but I may be wrong. If you can find it, put some gasoila varnish around the outer side. That I know is fuel resistant.

 

[trendsetter240]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Did you read your super glue tube closely ?? I can remember reading some place not to use super glue around fuel products but I may be wrong. If you can find it, put some gasoila varnish around the outer side. That I know is fuel resistant.

Hey boobie,

I did read the super glue details closely; it doesn't say anything about not using around fuels.

The nipple is in there now and the bond is rock solid. I'd feel better now if I could seal the outside with something else just in case. I wonder if some type of heat shrink tubing would work?

p.s. reading this post back to myself it's kind of funny to be talking about a nipple to someone named boobie...

 

[boobie]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

It's a long story Goes back about forty years plus.

 

[emdsapmgr]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Regarding calling Bombardier for a replacement part: A new fuel pump comes in the box with a small plastic bag of hardware for the pump. You need to ask for the plastic bag (kit) of parts. Your nipple will be in that bag. See if they'll sell it to you.

 

[daselbee]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Super glue bonds deteriorate over time, especially on plastic.

Gasoila is great, if you can find it. Old school stuff.

 

[bob johnson]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

the replacement fuel pump system for that size motor in that era looks like this

it uses two standard pumps...by the time you got all the components , it would cost as much as a new pump..

you could also buy a used pump and just use that best body and assemble your pump from the best parts.

but if you continue on your glued path...i would thoroughly clean and dry the outside plastic of both sides of the glued part...scuff it slightly and slather a layer of 5 minute epoxy mixed up over both sides of the break...and build it up....that will anchor and support your super glue fix....and give an extra heavy duty layer of sealant...

they make a super glue GEL, that would have worked decent for this application...but i realize its too late, unless you try to break your connection... not a bad idea...

one to see how strong it really was
two to reglue a little better

good luck

bob

 

[daselbee]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Gotta disagree.....the dual pumps were for the V6s, I thought.
A real gas hog...the 1980 140 used one pump. It was coupled to the block to pick up it's pulse drive.
You will need the pump that has the separate nipple for the pulse.

I think a 50 buck pump would work just fine for his 115. The Sierra 18-7353 is the way I would go. Just have to fab up a suitable bracket to hold it. 1/8 Aluminum plate, a few holes, and some hose.

 

[daselbee]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

Well, I looked closely at the 18-7353 and I see it is for a low HP group of engines.
So, that pump may not be adequate.
But, I know I have seen that conversion done and discussed on this board before.
Maybe the other site that we cannot mention.

I will leave it to the OP to search if he is interested. I know it has been done, and economically, too.

 

[bob johnson]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

the pump i listed was for a 1997 105 hp....

they have the same set up for a 125 hp as well although it might be a 1995 or a 1996 year motor...they are the comercial versions of the ocean runners...

thats the 125 hp version( V4 60 degree looper)

bob

 

[daselbee]

Re: 96 E115ELED - OMS Pump - Can it be repaired?

I see we are talking about two different solutions here. I am suggesting the pre-vro era (early '80s) fuel pumps, and you have located a COMMERCIAL fuel pump system of the same year/era as his motor.

I have SEEN this conversion somewhere. I will let him search, if he wants to.