93 seadoo's- 1 blows smoke, 1 doesnt?

piratedude

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I have 2 identical xp's- one blows it seems a lot more smoke out the exhaust than the other. compression on both is good. they both run good but the one seems to foul plugs and blow smoke. i have had the carb rebuilt- no change. is there a way to adjust the oil injection? by the way- the shop that rebuilt the carb on the one said it's good that it blows smoke-means the engine will last longer because of more lube...huh? seems ive spent a lot of money so far with no change in performance am i being taken for a ride?
 

Jeff Walkowiak

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Re: 93 seadoo's- 1 blows smoke, 1 doesnt?

Yes you can adjust the injection pump, look on the pump there is a mark on the pump and the cam that rotates with the cable tension from the throttle connector both marks are supposed to be lined up at idle if the mark is advanced it is getting more oil than it needs, adjust the cable tensioner to alighn the marks, you will need a mirror to see what you are doing, its under the carbs on the rotary valve cover, if the ski smokes a lot when you first start it up and the smoke subsides as you use it then its a leak in the rotary valve seal or crank seal by the rotary valve compartment, or the pump is bad and allowing oil to seep in the engine, usually its a seal and those will require a lot of work to repair. If its a crank seal it will require a new crank, can't service the seals without taking the crank apart. If its a rotary valve seal its a pain to change as you need to pull the engine out and seperate the case halves to access that seal, plus take the shaft apart to get to it. From what you are saying it is leaking pretty bad, so I would put my best guess on the crank seals, here is a way to resolve the problem or at least help it to stop smoking if its caused by the rotary valve compartment. There are two large hoses from your oil tank to your rotary valve compartment, remove them from your oil tank and take a hose from one tank fitting to the other to block off those fittings, get a radiator flush fitting from an autoparts store and loop the two rotary valve hoses to that fitting, the fitting has a removable cap in the center, fill the hoses with 40 wt motor oil and some seal conditioner, this will lube the berrings and shaft and treat the seals as well plus having heavier oil will slow the leak, since the hoses are transparent you will see when it needs any oil added and just add some when needed. It's the only way to resolve the problem without needing to rebuild the engine. And it is quite simple and inexpensive to do.
 

piratedude

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Re: 93 seadoo's- 1 blows smoke, 1 doesnt?

thanks jeff for your idea's! I dont quite understand though what your trying to tell me- if the oil tank is looped off-how does the motor get the 2-stroke oil? do in need to premix now?
 

Jeff Walkowiak

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Re: 93 seadoo's- 1 blows smoke, 1 doesnt?

nope the tank has 3 hoses one to the pump 2 that connect to the rotary valve compartment one goes in from thr bottom of the tank one goes back to the top of the tank you are hooking those together and not using them for the rotary valve but you leave the oil pump hose connected to the pump for oil injection, there is a totally different way if you pre mix, so what I told you is the way to isolate the rotary valve oil from the injection oil, injection oil is really thin and leaks past the seals easily and you have a really bad seal in there so by isolating the oil for the rotary valve you can use a lot heavier oil in the valve and regular injection oil in the oil pump.
 

piratedude

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Re: 93 seadoo's- 1 blows smoke, 1 doesnt?

How about if i disconnect the oil lines to the carb and then use premix- then replace the oil in the tank w/40 weight to lube the valves? will that work?
 

Jeff Walkowiak

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Re: 93 seadoo's- 1 blows smoke, 1 doesnt?

720 or 787 engine? most likely with the oil problem it's a 650 or 720 those were notorious for that problem, on those the pump must be removed meaning the rotary valve cover needs to be removed and the nylon gear taken out to avoid engine damage ,, the oil lines need to be looped from one nipple to the other to avoid air getting in the cases, a block off plate over the pump opening and the oil line to the pump blocked off. also wind a spring on the rear carb one extra turn to add tension to the cable and replace the loss of tension from removing the pump.
 
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