9.9.Johnson Won't Idle

DaveinTampa

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My engine will not idle properly. It runs at low/medium/high speeds and in gear just fine, but when I turn the throttle down to the lowest position, or even close to it, it dies after a few seconds. I looked at the fuel filter and it's fine. Also, the knob on the outside of the throttle doesn't seem to work very well. This engine is new to me. HELP!!!!<br /><br />P.S. Not sure, but the engine seems to be a 1990 or so.
 

grid

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Re: 9.9.Johnson Won't Idle

Sometimes the depth of the engine in the water creates enough exhaust back pressure to warrant setting the idle up via the tiny allen screw atop the port side of the carb. Other times if the engine's been sitting for an extended period, varnish will have built up in the carb, blocking the idle fuel flow. Sometimes the judicious use of fuel injector cleaner with your fuel mix will clean it out nicely (mechanic-in-a-can). And sometimes all you can really do is remove the carb and clean it. If you're new to this, on this engine I'd STRONGLY recommend letting a pro do it. There are too many plastic parts to break, and a starter spring that will have you rewinding it the rest of the year, if it pops out.
 

OBJ

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Re: 9.9.Johnson Won't Idle

Kong....if you can post the model number, we can tell you the year. Look on the port transom bracket for a plate. It will list the model and serial number. Post us the model number.<br /><br />On some 9.9/15's, you can twist the grip low enough to retard the timing enough to kill the engine. Or, the low speed needle may need adjustment.<br /><br />Not knowing how long the engine set or the last tune up, we can only guess. Please post a little more info on the engine.<br /><br />Thanks....
 

DaveinTampa

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Re: 9.9.Johnson Won't Idle

Thanks, OBJ and Grid. I will try to get my model number and year, but will be on vacation next week. I spoke to the original owner today and he says "two-stroke engines do not idle well and not to worry about it". True? Also, I looked in the manual for the idle screw adjustment and the only thing that was in there was the knob on the outside of the throttle. OBJ... what do you mean about being able to twist the grip low enough to retard timing? Is that an inherent engine thing or a problem with my engine? Thanks....
 

OBJ

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Re: 9.9.Johnson Won't Idle

I meant backing the throttle down enough to kill the engine with the tiller grip....assuming yours is being controled from the tiller handle. The twist grip at the handle does two thing. It moves the "magneto plate" to give you more or less timing and through the movement of the mag plate, to open or close the carb throttle vlv.<br /><br />As far as a two stroke not idling well, I disagree a whole bunch. When tuned right, they idle just fine.<br /><br />The knob on the front of the lower pan is the low idle knob. To adjust, run the low speed needle in until it just seats....DO NOT JAM..it will ruin the seat/needle. You will have to pull the knob to reposition it to do this. Then back out approx. 1 1/2 turns. Start the engine and warm up. Run at high speed for a few minutes to clear cylinders. Back the throttle down to slow. Make the needle adjustments by turning in needle about 1/8th turn in, at a time and wait for adjustment to take effect. Do this until the motor starts to get rough and then back out 1/4 turn. This is to keep the engine from running to lean at low speeds. You will get to a point where you will hear the idle speed pick up with the adjustment if the carb is in good shape.<br /><br />If you need any more help or still have questions, don't hesitate to post. Lottsa' great wrench's on the site and are glad to help.
 

Bill kubiak

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Re: 9.9.Johnson Won't Idle

great article, is there anything like that available for 6 hp thru 8 hp??
 
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