9.8hp nissan need help. this cant be right?

pushnf8

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I just picked up a 2000 Nissan 9.8hp 2 stroke motor. The motor starts and runs good. Has a steady flow of water also. My problems are...
1. The motor seems to be very slow. While in nuetral it seems to rev up nice. Also in reverse. However, when I put the motor into foward (in the water) and hold it at wot it moves very slow and doesnt seem to rev up. Thought it was the prop (maybe spun) but that doesnt make sense. Motor would still rev but boat wouldnt move. Cant be linkage because it would affect the nuetral and reverse options also right? Could fuel mixture be an issue? (anyone know proper mixture?). Am I right to assume the carb cant be the issue? If it were carb related wouldnt it prevent wot in nuetral as well as foward? Like I said it nuetral it revs up and screams, reverse revs up nice and moves just as fast as wot in foward. Foward sounds like it doesnt rev up more than half way. Does foward put more load on the carb than reverse?

2. Once the motor is shut off, regardless of how long its been run, it is still difficult to start back up. I believe this is a carb issue or maybe a poor mixture?

Just for the record I also have a 97 Merc 8hp that Im using on the same boat as comparison. This Merc is easily twice as fast as the nissan and has a much better power band. I need to know if this is normal. Should the merc 8hp be this much better than the nissan 9.8hp? Both are 2 strokes by the way.
I know side by side the merc is considerably larger motor than the nissan. Any input on comparison is appreciated. I was going to replace my merc with the nissan but it's not looking like a wise decision.
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: 9.8hp nissan need help. this cant be right?

You need to take the engine into a dealer to determine what is wrong with it. If you don't want to do that, then you need a service manual and start at page one.
 

pushnf8

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Re: 9.8hp nissan need help. this cant be right?

I appreciate the response. Before I throw down the money or time I want to know if this is worth it. If the motor wont be comparable or better, to my Merc 8hp than Im not wasting my time. If it will be faster by any amount I will look into it. It is lighter than the merc so I wouldnt mind it using it instead. I need to find out how the two motors would compare assuming they were both running 100% You by chance know the recommended fuel mixture?
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: 9.8hp nissan need help. this cant be right?

The government measures the hp at WOT. So at WOT the Nissan is 20% more powerful than the Mercury. However, the Mercury 8 has a little bit different power curve and is actually equal to the Nissan up to about 3/4 throttle. The fuel mixture is 50:1. If it means anything....The Nissan is prized by it's owners because it only weighs 56 lbs. They are in extremly high demand due to their lack of importation into this country. They command a much higher price, used, than the Mercury by anyone who uses one on a dinghy.
 

pushnf8

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Re: 9.8hp nissan need help. this cant be right?

Cool. I guess the motor is worth looking into then. While inspecting I notice that something appears to be missing. From the shift lever up to what appears to be a nuetral saftey switch on the top? Would that have anything to do with the operation or only prevent an in gear start? Also I plan on pulling off the carb and cleaning it up. I hope that the issue lies within it and is gumming up under load. Everything else appears in tact so it's a safe starting point. Im not sure of the way the power is distributed to the prop but Im guessing it works or doesnt and isnt the underlying cause of the lack of power. I will check back once I've got that cleaned. I really hope this thing has a little more power. Thanks again.
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: 9.8hp nissan need help. this cant be right?

There is a neutral safety lock on the starter that keeps the engine from startering in gear. To see what you are missing you can download a free parts book from our website.
 

walexa

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Re: 9.8hp nissan need help. this cant be right?

Sounds to me like something is not right in the throttle linkage. Alot of outboards are limitted to partial throttle in neutral, and a linkage connects to the forward/neutral/reverse shift arm somewhere under the cowling to move a throttle block out of the way...........my bet is that part is missing, only allowing you high idle speed. With the cowl off, motor not running, watch the throttle arm/linkage and see if you can find a stop that prevents it from moving farther..........this stop should have something connected to it to move it out of the way in reverse and forward.

And get that carb off and clean it..........should be simple to do and is most likely your problem for hard starting.

Waylan
 
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