88 johnson 65 hp overheating/oil alarm

fishook76

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I have an 88 Johnson that's a 65 hp. Recently I've been having an alarm going off in the controls, beep, beep, beep about every second. When I rev the motor the beeping goes faster. it does have a vro pump.. I have tired mixing the fuel 50:1 with the vro electronics connected and disconnected. it still beeps. When the beeping is happening I can hold my hand on the head so doesn't feel like an overheat. Also, there is a steady stream of water coming from the port as I already replaced the water pump... Any suggestions??
 

w2much

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Re: 88 johnson 65 hp overheating/oil alarm

Keep using pre mix until you solve the problem. Unhook each sensor wire , vro, temp, and oil reservoir one by one at a time. If that does not work your horn or vro wire harness may be shorting out. You are getting a no oil alarm. Check oil consumption at the reservoir. You need to solve this do not ignore it. Keep using pre mix until you slove the problem. Something is sending a signal to the horn or the horn is bad.
 

fishook76

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Re: 88 johnson 65 hp overheating/oil alarm

OK, I can do that but what am I looking/listening for? If I pull a sensor wire , vro, temp, and/or oil reservoir connection and the beeping stops does that tell me that's bad? I would think that if a connection is lost, that would trigger an alarm...About one tank a gas ago things were running fine. At that time I did notice that oil was being used from the oil tank. Now, I don't feel comfortable running it long enough - with the beeping- to notice if the level is dropping.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 88 johnson 65 hp overheating/oil alarm

A beep every other second indicates that there is no oil at the VRO pump. You have a choice of either rebuilding the VRO pump or coverting back to premixing your fuel/oil.

VRO Horn Warnings)
(J. Reeves)

NOTE: I retired around 1991/92. Possibly some of the later V4 engines and others may also incorporate a fuel vacuum switch that would enable a fuel restriction warning to sound as mentioned below, an unknown factor to myself.

1 - A steady constant beep = Overheating - The V/6 engines, possibly some others, have a fuel restriction warning which is also a steady constant beep.

2 - A beep every 20 or 40 seconds = oil level has dropped to 1/4 tank. (Late model engine = Every 40 seconds)

3 - A beep every other second = VRO failure, air leak in oil line, oil restriction, (anything that would result in a lack of oil being supplied to the engine).

NOTE - If the warning horn is the black plastic (overpriced) three wire type horn, the warning horn should beep once when the ignition key is turned to the ON position. If it does not, it is either faulty or someone has disconnected it (a stupid move!). At any rate, if it does not beep which indicates that the horn is non functional, find out why and do not run the engine until the problem is corrected.

(VRO Changeover Judgement Call)
(J. Reeves)

The VROs first came out in 1984 and have been upgraded quite a few times. In my opinion, back around 1988, they had perfected them but I think that they were upgraded even more since then. As long as the warning system is operating as it should, I feel quite at ease with them.

Some boaters have voiced their thoughts such as "What if that overpriced plastic horn should fail while I'm under way for some reason, and the VRO decides to fail five minutes later?" Obviously that would result in a big problem which really brings their fears into view.

The word "ease" is the key word though. If one has the slightest feeling of being ill at ease with that setup, then they should take the route they feel more at ease with. A judgement call each individual would need to make on their own.

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(VRO Pump Conversion To Straight Fuel Pump)
(J. Reeves)

You can convert the VRO pump into a straight fuel pump, eliminating the oil tank and VRO pump warning system, but retain the overheat warning setup (and fuel restriction warning if so equipped) by doing the following:

1 - Cut and plug the oil line at the engine so that the oil side of the VRO pump will not draw air into its system. Trace the wires from the back of the VRO to its rubber plug (electrical plug) and disconnect it.

2 - Trace the two wires from the oil tank to the engine, disconnect those two wires, then remove them and the oil tank.

3 - Mix the 50/1 oil in the proper amount with whatever quantity fuel you have. Disconnect the fuel line at the engine. Pump the fuel primer bulb until fuel exits that hose with the tint of whatever oil you used. Reconnect the fuel hose.

That's it. If you want to test the heat warning system to ease your mind, have the key in the on position, then ground out the tan heat sensor wire that you'll find protruding from the cylinder head. The warning horn should sound off.
 

fishook76

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Re: 88 johnson 65 hp overheating/oil alarm

Thank you for the reply. I think that I will just take the VRO out and use pre-mixed gas. I cant really see a problem with that;--possibly some excess carbon build up but it seems like most ppl who have taken them out are happy with it. Ill try and get it done tomorrow...I'll let you know how it goes!!!
 

fishook76

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Re: 88 johnson 65 hp overheating/oil alarm

I thought i should tell you how things went, for now. I was planning on disconnecting the VRO. in the process, I took off the oil lead to the motor. When I did that, I noticed water in the oil line. not good. so, I manually squeezed the oil ball unit I got just oil. I reconnected the oil lead and cranked her over. she beeped one time as I proceeded to squeeze the oil ball. she ran fine for the next hour on a test ride. Theory: my oil can is on the back of the pontoon and I have noticed the water droplets fly on to the tank. I think that is how the water got into the tank. so, i put the oil canister in a battery box and all is well.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 88 johnson 65 hp overheating/oil alarm

The oil container (any of them) must be in a location whereas water cannot fall upon them. I've seen this time and time again... water in the oil container. After your rig sits awhile exam the container closely... any water will separate from the oil of course and be at the bottom of the tank. Glad you spotted that.
 
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