Thought I'd put a new subject on this since I'm so far into ittat this point. To see what led up to this, look for "87 50 hp Force Overheating". thanks<br /><br />Ok, so I've taken off the head, flywheel, starter, wiring harnesses from the port side, shift and throttle cables from the other side, taken all of the inverted torx bolts out from the underside, and all of the bolts holding the base to the cylinders and still am not able to either lift the engine out or split the base from the cylinders. Trying to get to the pistons in order to change them and have the cylinders bored. I assume something with the driveshaft is what's stoping me but no idea exactly what. Any help out there? Thanks in advance!