8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

scoutabout

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I have never been overly concerned about fuel burn. We boat mostly on inland lakes every few weekends and spend another two weeks on vacation at the lake. Sure, the cost to fill a 30 gallon tank at our local marina hurts a bit but I probably don't burn more than a 200 gallons a summer.

Occasionally we drop the boat in Georgian Bay for a longer run out from Parry Sound to my step-father's place. I thought I would use this opportunity to try and get some more accurate numbers. What I discovered doesn't really seem possible in light of what I read here about how inefficient boats generally are. So I thought I'd lay out the numbers and let you folks critique either my approach, my math, or both.

A word about the engine. When I was doing my research before buying the Scout, I talked to several Yamaha techs. One of them said that the 90 hp is actually a 100 but the company made a decision at some point to rebadge to 90, discontinuing the "100 hp" line. Aparently this was to help owners qualify for lower insurance rates and was ok as the power ratings for marine engines are allowed to be within 10% of what's on the cowl. I don't know how true any of this is - but if anything, would argue worse worse mileage, not better if the thing actually was putting out a true 100 hp.


Without further ado.

The boat: 17 foot 2004 Scout Dorado with a carbed 90 hp Yamaha 4 stroker (just turned over 200 hours). In terms of weight - the boat (1100 pounds), motor (394 pounds), gas (200), gear (50) and 3 family members (400) - the whole works then tips the scales a just over 2000 pounds (yes, a light hull).

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On the way to the launch ramp I filled up the boat at a roadside station then observed the following on the water.

Total distance travelled: 40 miles
Elapsed time on hour meter: 2 hours
Indicated speed: 20-23 mph
Indicated RPMs: 3600 rpm

It was a constant run to the island and back 20 miles each way. Conditions were relatively calm, with little wind. After pulling the boat out of the water at the end of the day I stopped at the same gas station on the way back and topped up the tank, taking on 17.5 litres (4.62 US gallons) of fuel.

So, using higher math, can I assume the following:

Fuel burn at 20 mph: 2.31 gph

Fuel economomy at 20 mph: 8.65 miles per gallon

Seems a bit too good, no? I should not that this is minimum planing cruise speed for us. Really, I do closer to 30 but wanted to do the first run as economically as possible before choosing runs at 30, then 35, then 40 respectively.


Insights and comments appreciated.
 

robert graham

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

Check: Yamaha Outboard Performance Bulletins....for your boat/motor/rig...gives MPG, GPH, MPH information chart at all RPM's....
 

Philster

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

I'm pulling 6 mpg at low planing speeds with a 300HP engine. So, it's possible.

You need to repeat the test to make it valid. When you topped off the tank, was it the exact same pump?

One thing that can goof things up is something like this: you have 20 gallons on board and burn 5 ( you do not know this though). You top off and the pump auto-shuts at 4 gallons in, because it sensed full. You burned 5 and believe you burned 4 and introduced a 20% error in your calculations.

So, repeating the scenario a few times helps remove this chance for error.

Use the same pump. If it auto shuts and you don't squeeze the trigger and squeeze in more, then all the better.

Check the mileage a few more times, and if it repeats, it's more valid.
 

Mischief Managed

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

Assuming your top speed is around 40 MPH, that MPG number is absolutely accurate.
 

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

Thanks, guys. Interesting about your big outboard's efficiency Philster - that's incredible.

As for my test - yep - very same pump and yep - top speed is about 40.

It did shut off but I kept clicking it until the overflow spurted a bit - both times.

Phil - how are you establishing mileage? Engine management system, separate fuel flow meter?

I'll keep running tests and compare with the bulletins.
 

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

I have a GPH meter and back it up with the top off method. The GPH meter is scary accurate. Can do GPH for a trip, immediate rate, etc,

At 40 MPH cruise speed, I am at 10 GPH, which is 4 MPG, and this is consistent with other 300XS users. Slow down to 20-25 min planing speed and it goes up. 6 is real.
 

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

Thanks, guys. Interesting about your big outboard's efficiency Philster - that's incredible.

As for my test - yep - very same pump and yep - top speed is about 40.

It did shut off but I kept clicking it until the overflow spurted a bit - both times.

Phil - how are you establishing mileage? Engine management system, separate fuel flow meter?

I'll keep running tests and compare with the bulletins.

If your top speed is 40 and you are really making 100 HP to get there, you take the speed and square it to get 1600, then divide by 100 to get 16. Now take your cruise speed and square it, so 20 squared is 400, then divide that by 16. That will give you the HP required to cruise at 20 MPH, which is 25 HP. Multiply 25 HP times .09 gallons per hour ( a reasonable GPH per HP number for a gas engine) and you get 2.25 gallons use in one hour. That's darn close to your measured 2.31 gallons per hour.
 

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

If your top speed is 40 and you are really making 100 HP to get there, you take the speed and square it to get 1600, then divide by 100 to get 16. Now take your cruise speed and square it, so 20 squared is 400, then divide that by 16. That will give you the HP required to cruise at 20 MPH, which is 25 HP. Multiply 25 HP times .09 gallons per hour ( a reasonable GPH per HP number for a gas engine) and you get 2.25 gallons use in one hour. That's darn close to your measured 2.31 gallons per hour.

Now that's interesting. Is the .09 gph figure a constant regardless of the number of engines one has, or is there a different multiplier for twins? If I use .09 in the final calculation, I come real, real close to what I've guesstimated (15-16 gph) as my actual fuel burn at cruise. Like this...

Two engines at 205 hp each = 410
Top speed (36 mph), squared = 1296 / 410 = 3.16

Cruise speed (24 mph), squared = 576 / 3.16 = 182 hp

182 hp X .09 = 16.4 gph at cruise

My .02

(Okay, I just realized that the .09 should be constant, as it's a 'per horsepower' figure, and in fact, each of my engines is generating 91 hp at cruise. GOT IT!)
 

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

Now that's interesting. Is the .09 gph figure a constant regardless of the number of engines one has, or is there a different multiplier for twins? If I use .09 in the final calculation, I come real, real close to what I've guesstimated (15-16 gph) as my actual fuel burn at cruise. Like this...

Two engines at 205 hp each = 410
Top speed (36 mph), squared = 1296 / 410 = 3.16

Cruise speed (24 mph), squared = 576 / 3.16 = 182 hp

182 hp X .09 = 16.4 gph at cruise

My .02

(Okay, I just realized that the .09 should be constant, as it's a 'per horsepower' figure, and in fact, each of my engines is generating 91 hp at cruise. GOT IT!)

Yup, you got it. Only works if the engine(s) get to proper operating RPM at top speed though.
 

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

Yup, you got it. Only works if the engine(s) get to proper operating RPM at top speed though.

Just so happens I did check that 2 weeks ago. I run right in the middle of V-P's recommended WOT rpm range. Very cool and handy little calculator, dude. I'm gonna amaze the crowd at the next raft-up. :)
 

Mischief Managed

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Re: 8+ mpg from a mid-sized outboard? Please check my math!

Just so happens I did check that 2 weeks ago. I run right in the middle of V-P's recommended WOT rpm range. Very cool and handy little calculator, dude. I'm gonna amaze the crowd at the next raft-up. :)

One other thing, it only works if the boat is cleanly on-plane, so it's only good for cruising speed calculations. If the boat is plowing or at displacement speed, the numbers don't work at all.
 
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