'67 Johnson 60hp -won't idle

FAJSAM

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Model VXL-13A Seriel #J2835115<br /><br />Left the dock with no problem, cranked right up and planed out with no problem, although it did seem to not have as much speed as last time out. <br /><br />Later in the day heading back in (started with no problem) she seemed to be missing and pulsating then would bog down and stall when attempting to go full throttle. Then had trouble starting and idleing. Had to be towed in- thanks to a fellow boater. <br /><br />Where do I start with the troubleshooting? <br /><br />*Note- had noticed that the one idle needle had moved during operation and seemed to be loose when lightly wiggled. <br /><br />Please Help!
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: '67 Johnson 60hp -won't idle

Fajsam.... Check for water in the fuel by simply removing one of the 7/16" hex head bolts at the lower front section of the carburetor.<br /><br />Then check the compression and spark. Compression should be approx 100+ psi and even on all cylinders. Spark, with the plugs out, should jump a 1/4" gap on all cyls with a strong blue flame.<br /><br />If the above areas check out okay, hopefully your problem can be contributed to the carburetor adjustments which can be corrected as follows:<br /><br />That engine has fixed brass high speed jets which are located in back of those 7/16" hex head bolts. If clogged, that will of course affect the engines operation. Both of the H/S jets must be perfectly clean.<br /><br />(Carburetor Adjustments - Older V/4 Downdraft Carb)<br /> <br />Have the slow speed needle valve knobs installed upside down so that they can be turned without encountering any obstruction.<br /><br />Gently seat each of the Slow Speed needle valves, then back each one out one and one half (1-1/2) turns. NOTE... have the jam nut on the s/speed needles snug so that viberation won't have any effect on them, but loose enough so that you can turn them without a great amout of effort.<br /><br />(Slow Speed Adjustments)<br />Now, lowering the rpms of course, take the engine out of gear and set the throttle just to where the engine will stay running. Again, in segments of 1/8 turn, slowly start turning in one of the slow speed needle valves, waiting a few seconds between each turning for the engine to respond. <br /><br />As you turn the s/speed needles in, the rpms will increase..... and as it does, lower the rpms to where the engine will just stay running (otherwise the rpms will climb quite high).<br /><br />You will reach a point whereas the engine will either start to die out or it will spit back (sounds like a mjild backfire). At that point, back the needle valve out 1/4 turn. Repeat the process with the remaining slow speed needle. Again, at some point in that 1/4 turn out, you will find the smoothest setting. When finished, tighten the jam nut somewhat, then remove and reinstall the s/speed knobs correctly (right side up).
 

FAJSAM

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Re: '67 Johnson 60hp -won't idle

Thanks Joe for the reply, I'll do as instructed and with all hope we will be back in the water soon. Thanks again.
 

FAJSAM

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Re: '67 Johnson 60hp -won't idle

Well, I can't seem to get it started to make the adjustments. Took the cover off and noticed fuel around the left carb. Does this mean a rebuild is in order? The bowl looks full of fuel, is this normal. The plugs are black and were wet around the threads. I am unable to check the compression for lack of equipment at this time. What do you think I am dealing with? It may be over my head as for the rebuild. What could I expect to pay? Thanks for your response.
 

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Re: '67 Johnson 60hp -won't idle

tried the low idle adjustments but had little success. Had to put at full throttle just to get it to fire up. Did not rev up much when adjusting needles. There seemed to be a lot of fuel/oil in the tub when it stopped. Had been running good but with a lot of fuel unburt (too rich?).
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: '67 Johnson 60hp -won't idle

It sounds like it's time to rebuild the carburetor and fuel pump with complete kits, then start over.<br /><br />Carburetor kit is OMC (original number)#382055, (new superceeded number) #436959. List is around $32.00. The fuel pump kit is OMC #379777 and lists for around $21.00. I do not have the carb kit but I do have a couple fuel pump kits left.<br /><br />I'm assuming that you do have compression of approximately 100 psi and that it's even on all cylinders, and that the spark (with the plugs out) will jump a 1/4" gap on all cylinders with a strong blue flame.<br /><br />Spark plugs should be Champion J6C plugs, set to .030.... and if you haven't already, I'd suggest that you print out the instructions pertaining to adjusting that carburetor. It'll come in handy.
 

FAJSAM

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Re: '67 Johnson 60hp -won't idle

Thanks Joe, I'll attempt the rebuild and let you know how it turns out.
 
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