'62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

actionjackson

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rk24 40 hp just rebuilt carb fuel pump points coils condensors fuel lines everything. cleaned carb in cleaner, took off idle jet cover, super clean. cleaned high speed orifice, didn't remove it but blew air through it and cleaned it with a paper clip. idles good but with a bop and blip every now and again. no hesitation to high rpm, but when i get to wot it cuts out, stays running but i have to throttle down to 3/4 and then it still won't go back to wot. will plain off at 3/4 but won't go full. noticed air bubbles in the pump glass, and the metal tank has got some kind of negative pressure. when I shut it down and remove the tank cover it goes ssssssss.

any suggestions?
 

Mas

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

Might have some restrictions in your fuel line, or even an air leak into the fuel system. Also, does pumping the fuel line bulb help?

MAS
 

actionjackson

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

pumping the bulb doesn't seem to help, it seems like there is fuel pressure but i can see air bubbles in the glass, it is the old metal johnson tank, and there is a little fuel coming from around the sending unit. i have a fishing trip/bachelor party this weekend and would like some suggestions on how to help diagnose the problem. my future father inlaw was tending to the motor while i was driving and these are what he saw, fuel bowl level fine, primer ball didn't seem to help but just saw air bubbles in the glass and we were experiencing a blip on idle almost like a hickup but accelerated fine until wot
 

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

Will it run ok with the gas cap loose? (It should) The tank has an automatic vent that only works in one direction..to let air in. Since it doesn't let air out it can build pressure. Before you freak out at that thought, it does have a pressure relief in case the pressure is out of sight.

All this assumes you have a Johnson tank of course. If it is something else, all bets are off.
 

actionjackson

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

i have two tanks, the only one i tried so far is the johnson the other one is identical to this but just says gasoline and talks about the fuel mix. I believe they ar e original to the boat as i am the 2nd owner since '62

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actionjackson

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

can octane affect performance in tehse old johnsons should i run 87 or can i run 93 to get it going again
 

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

For that motor, 87 is just fine. Higher octane will give no advantage and is a waste of money.
 

freddyray21

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

if the tank is hissing then the vent is clogged. As Frank said try running it with the cap loose on the tank.
 

b717doc

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

Just my 2 cents worth, I own a 1960 RDS-22 that should be pretty close to what you have, it too is a 40 horse Johnson, and boy have I learned ALOT about this motor....First of all, I agree, try running it with the fuel cap off, that should remedy the "negative pressure" possibility.
2 things have to happen at full throttle..The butterfly in the carb has to go fully open, and against it's stop, and the "timing plate" must also go it's full travel and be against it's stop. Both of these conditions are dependant on the vertical rod that is operated by the throttle linkage, the one with the 2 mercury switches on it. These components gave me fits on my motor, until I finally got the flywheel off by "renting" a puller from Advance autoparts, then, it was really easy. The vertical shaft, or rod, can't have any play in it, but cant be too hard to rotate either...There's a shim underneath the strip that holds it in place. One of the 2 screws that held the actuating bracket to the timing plate was gone, and the other hanging in with one or two threads. Once they were replaced, (with locktite) my timing plate was glad to go to its stop, as well at the butterfly on the carb at full throttle. Then, after re-assembling with all new ignition parts, it was off to Allatoona. Stupid battery too weak to spin her over, so I grabbed the pull rope with the choke in the "auto" position, and she purred like a kitten on the first pull. You can also simply pull out the rope until the compression release engages, then hit the starter, and she starts fine, when your battery is weak. Went to full throttle on the lake, and MAN....HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT...She's a Screamer!!! Im getting about 40 mph now, and very happy with this antique...Im thinkin your motor is alot like mine, and mine was doing the same as yours before I did all of this....If your motor is different than a RDS-22....Nevermind :).
 

actionjackson

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

my plug wires seem to be hindering the performance of the timing set by rubbing on that plate, also they hit the water outlet off the head for the choke. should i grease the casing on the wires?
 

b717doc

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Re: '62 40 hp johnson maiden voyage issues

Those plug wires are held in a 'slot" kind of thing on the timing plate, then are routed down and around that water pump.
 
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