5.7L PCM high idle issue

KMDisland

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Hello,
I have a 22 shamrock boat with a stock PCM 5.7 liter throttle body injected motor (S/N of motor SLL PRL10 TBI). I believe the motor is a 1996, and has a MEFI 2 ECM. I have attached a picture of the ECM, not sure if this ECM is original I have only had the boat a year. I have been having a high idle issue for a while now. The motor usually starts up and runs perfect, but after running for 30 minutes or more if you go to slow down the idle will not idle back to 600 RPMs, it will stay between 1100-1600. This does not happen all the time, but it does happen about 90% of the time. If you cut power to the engine wait a few minutes then start back up it will correct the problem (sometimes I have to cut engine several times to get it to idle correct again). I have one of those cheap rinda technologies code readers and it keeps giving me a code "52 ECM hardware failure". I will erase the code and it keeps coming back. Things I have done are:

1. Replaced IACV twice
2. Checked for vacuum leaks
3. I checked the voltage at several places going to and from the ECM:
A: J1-13 sensor ground ( good ground)
B: J1-14, ECM ground good
C: J1-15 5 volt supply to sensors, had 5 volts going to this.
D: J1-16, battery feed (had 12.4 volts)
J1-30: ECM ground, had good ground
J1-31: 5 volt to MAP sensor, had 5 volts at the plug
J1-31: battery feed, had 12.4 volts.

4. I also pulled the plugs going to the MAP and throttle position sensor and checked them and they were both getting 5 volts going to them and I checked the grounding and they were good.
5.I pulled off the flame arrestor and un hooked the throttle cable to make sure the throttle is at its seated position and not slightly accelerated still high idle.
6. I have unplugged the IACV while idling high and the idle does not change.


The only thing I have not checked is the TPS.

My question to you is do you think I have an issue with my ECM or do you think it is something else? If something else what do you think? ECM_picture.jpgECM_picture.jpgECM_picture.jpgIf it is my ECM what are my options for replacing? I was told AZ speed sells a conversion kit to make a MEFI 4 work and they give you directions how to configure your J1 ans J2 PINS to fit the MEFI 4. What I am concerned with is my MEFI 2 has the knock sensor modules, not sure how the MEFI 4 will work. Anybody know where I can purchase an MEFI 2? or who sells MEFI's in general?
 

Don S

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Re: 5.7L PCM high idle issue

Disconnect the throttle cable going to the throttle body and see if it idles down like it should.
 

KMDisland

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Re: 5.7L PCM high idle issue

Don,
I tried this and first I thought this was my issue. I was able to get the throtle down and it stayed good. I re-adjusted the throttle linkage to put more pressure on the TB to keep it in the closed position. I thought my problem was solved.

I just replaced my double morse throtles with a single lever. All of the sudden I am having this problem again. When it started to do it again I un hooked the cable from the throttle body and the idle stayed high. I even reved it up a few times and pressed it back in the closed position and it still stayed high.
Thanks
KMDisland
 

Tahorover

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Re: 5.7L PCM high idle issue

IACV port can build up crud and hold the valve open.
 

KMDisland

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Re: 5.7L PCM high idle issue

Tahorover,
I did this once but I will try it again.

Thanks
KMDisland
 

Scott Danforth

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Re: 5.7L PCM high idle issue

MEFI is GM's "Marine Electronic Fuel Injection" its also what GM then puts on the industrial engines, and then moved to the hot-rod crate motors such as the Ram Jet, etc. the 2 or 4 is just the generation.

if it was your ECM, they either work or dont. most likely your problem is simple. dirt in the IAC, carbon behind the throttle plates, bad IAT, along those lines.

the fact that you have an error code leads me to believe you have a temp sensor (or other) going south and the engine programming is compensating.
 
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