40 year old aluminum jon boat need help sealing leaks

am2018

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hey guys i have a 14 foot aluminum jon boat, still in fairly good shape. there is a patch job that was done in the front of the boat, and i think that water is coming in from there. also the wooden board on back of the boat that the outboard is mounted on might be letting some water in as well. I bought jb weld and i plan on pouring water in the boat when its at my house to figure out exactly where the water is leaking, because i am also worried it might be leaking through the rivets. Obviously getting the boat re welded is my best solution but that is not possible for me to do right now. Do you guys know of any good temporary fixes and if so is jb weld good to do it with? Also, i was told i should use a wire brush bit for my drill and brush the area that i am going to put the jb weld on before hand. Any tips for this would be greatly appreciated. If anyone knows of any kind of rubber lining (something like a truck bed lining) that i could just seal the whole bottom with lt me know. Thanks guys
 

5150abf

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Re: 40 year old aluminum jon boat need help sealing leaks

You are on the the righth track, you want to fill the boat with water and by that I mean put it on saw horses and get 1''-2'' of water in it and watch as you are filling it, water is very heavy and boats aren't made to be supported in 2 spots so be careful.

Once the water is in mark all the rivets that leak then drain the water and rebuck the leaking rivets, all you need is another person and 2 steel hammers, have the person outside the boat hold thier hammer on the leaking rivet and you smack it once or twice, don't go nuts, one or two decent taps are all you need to seal them, if you smack them too much they will never seal.

With out a picture it is hard to say what to do witrh the other repair, but I woudl clean it up as best you can and start over, if it is a tear or larger hole the JB will work for awhile but once you get that on it is is almost impossible to weld, and yes you want to scuff up the whole area really really well with the biggest sand paper you have, 150 is perfect.

To make the repair last a little long do an area way bigger than the actual hole or tear, you want ot go 12/''-3/4'' around it and put it on plenty thick.
 

DuckHunterJon

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Re: 40 year old aluminum jon boat need help sealing leaks

There is a product called Gluvit. I haven't used it, but I believe it's specifically for fixing leaking rivits. I'm with 5150 though - if you ever think you will weld it, don't put on a band aid now, it will make it a bear to weld down the line.
 

kfa4303

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Re: 40 year old aluminum jon boat need help sealing leaks

Hi am2018. 5150abf is right. You can rebuck any loose rivets you may find. However, if they're too far gone to be fixed I would drill them out and replace them with an aluminum rivet one size larger. You can get an inexpensive blind pop rivet gun form Harbor Freight for less than $20 and rivets can be ordered in bulk, online for cheap. While you can certainly use JB weld on small holes, I wouldn't use it on anything much larger than the size of a dime. For holes larger than that, JB makes an epoxy stick/putty which is better suited to filling in larger holes. While JB is great stuff, it doesn't flex well, so you shouldn't really use it on, or near the seams of the boat or any other areas which may have a large amount of flex while underway. I wold suggest you use a product called Gluv-it to seal the seams of your boat. It's a paintable epoxy with the consistency of honey. You first clean any corrosion or oxidation off of the seams of the boat with a wire wheel, then wipe clean with acetone and let dry. You then paint the Gluv-it on the INTERNAL seams of the boat only (no need to paint the whole floor). You then let it cure for 24-36 hours. The Gluv-it will will any and all nooks and crannies in the seams while still remaining flexible and 100% water resistant. Best of all a little goes a long way. One quart should be more than enough to do your whole boat. It does require some UV protection, so you'll need to paint over it, or install a floor in the boat.
As far as the transom is concerned, that's also pretty easy. There's really only one rule with aluminum boats: NEVER USE PRESSURE TREATED LUMBER. Marie grade is fine, but PT limber will cause an electrolytic reaction with the aluminum hull of the boat which will result in pitting and metal fatigue. Instead you'll want to use high quality, exterior grade, non-PT plywood, such as Aruco brand available at Lowes/HD. You'll then need to seal it with either wax-free polyester resin, then fiberglass matt, or you can simply coat it in 2 part epoxy and paint it. Most folks here seem to prefer the epoxy route for it's ease of use and lack of fumes, and its wide variety of uses, but it does cost a bit more. You can get it a West Marine, or any other boat supply store. If your budget doesn't allow for the epoxy right now, that's ok. You can get away with using spar varnish and/or high quality exterior grade paint like porch paint, or Rustoleum professional oil based enamel. They won't make your wood waterproof by ant means, like the fiberglass mat, or epoxy, but you should get several good seasons out of them. Also, be sure you only use Stainless Steel hardware dipped in 3M 5200 (a marine caulk/adhesive available at Lowes/HD). You can get virtually everything you need at a big box store, except the epoxy and/or fiberglass supplies. Hope that helps. Holler if you get stuck.
 

robert graham

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Re: 40 year old aluminum jon boat need help sealing leaks

I have a 30 year old riveted canoe and I use a wire brush on a 3/8" drill to clean around rivets or cracks, then apply 3M Yellow Weatherstrip Adhesive(Autozone/8 ounce tube), dries tough, but stays flexible, seals things up good, and a lot cheaper than some other aluminum boat sealers. Been using it 20+ years now, and so far, so good! Best not to do the truck bed liner, costs more, and you'll play heck gettin' it off for future repairs or rivet replacements.
 

5150abf

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Re: 40 year old aluminum jon boat need help sealing leaks

Gluvit is a band aid fix as far as I am concerned, it is a great product from what I understand and it certainly has it's place but doing it right is the way to go.

Rivets main funtion are to hold the boat together, being water tight is a by product of that so if a rivet is loose and you put a band aid on it it isn't doing it's intended job and will just keep wiggling until it leaks again, once they are properly bucked Gluvit can be used, it is the same as having a loose bolt and putting sealant on it, it doesn't leak anymore but it isn't tight either.
 
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