3" riser spacers are raw water cooled... why?

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In the middle of some maintainance including replacing the risers. The manifolds are fresh water cooled, and I suspect I will get a couple more years out of them... My question is in regards to the 3" spacers between my manifolds and elbows. Mine have been plumbed with raw water and because of this require replacing. Why the hell wherent these plumbed with fresh water? Lol I must be missing something? Is there a reason this was done I am overseeing?
Any info would be greatly appreciated everyone!
 
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To me fresh water and raw water mean the same thing. There is closed and open cooling systems. I'm thinking you have closed cooling so your manifolds are cooled by antifreeze, and the risers and elbows are cooled by raw/fresh water. The reason being is antifreeze can be circulated thru a manifold (in thru the bottom and out thru the top), but there is not a second connection to bring water out thru the top on the riser.
 

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To me fresh water and raw water mean the same thing. There is closed and open cooling systems. I'm thinking you have closed cooling so your manifolds are cooled by antifreeze, and the risers and elbows are cooled by raw/fresh water. The reason being is antifreeze can be circulated thru a manifold (in thru the bottom and out thru the top), but there is not a second connection to bring water out thru the top on the riser.


Hi alldodge, Thanks for your reply.
Your are correct. When I say fresh water, I am referring to the antifreeze mix that circulates in my motor and exhaust manifolds. When I refer to raw water, I mean the water picked up by the thru hull fitting... also, there is a threaded hole in the 3" risers blocks for a hose fitting...
There is a fresh water hose going to the top and the bottom of the manifold. This is obviously how it circulates the water through it. There is also a fitting for a hose fitting in the side of the 3" spacer. I would assume you move the hose fitting from the top of the manifold, and install it in the side of the 3" riser block. Put a plug in the top manifold hole, and switch around the gaskets on the spacer block (yes with new ones)
Is this not accepted? Safe? I don't see why not, but am so puzzled as to why it wasn't originally done on this motor..

Can anyone shed some light? Or confirm it's ok to run my 3" spacer blocks with the fresh water running through the manifolds/motor.
 

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What motor and serial number?

Also not fresh, its either coolant or antifreeze. Note: there are many folks reading these things and we all need to help others
 

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Its in the 96 to 97 serial range, and being in the start of the range its should be a 96

You can plumb the risers to use antifreeze (AF) and seal off the elbows. Should it be done I'm not to sure. The manifold gets the brunt of the heat and needs a lot of circulation to keep them cool. Having it go thru the riser before exiting raises the exit and if its above over even with the heat exchanged (HE) cap there might be an air pocket. The air pocket if not removed it can create a hot spot.

Pocket may develop in top section of riser

http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s.../31916/2345/10
 

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Elbows and risers are a replaceable maintenance item on brine boats.

Your HX isnt sized for the extra cooling so they are cooled with seawater

Every 5 years, buy new elbows and risers
 

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Its in the 96 to 97 serial range, and being in the start of the range its should be a 96

You can plumb the risers to use antifreeze (AF) and seal off the elbows. Should it be done I'm not to sure. The manifold gets the brunt of the heat and needs a lot of circulation to keep them cool. Having it go thru the riser before exiting raises the exit and if its above over even with the heat exchanged (HE) cap there might be an air pocket. The air pocket if not removed it can create a hot spot.

Pocket may develop in top section of riser

http://www.mercruiserparts.com/bam/s.../31916/2345/10

Perfect example of something I didn't think about. Thank you for the knowledge!
 

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Elbows and risers are a replaceable maintenance item on brine boats.

Your HX isnt sized for the extra cooling so they are cooled with seawater

Every 5 years, buy new elbows and risers

Another thing I never thought about... the cooling capacity of the heat exchanger. Thank you for the reply.
Now I'm curious if my heat exchanger is the factory size. It most likely is, but I was already curious for two minor reasons: I always thought my brackets holding the heat exchanger looked crude and homemade, and second, when I brought my heat exchanger
To the local rad man to be boiled out, mine was the largest there I noticed... minor I know. But I'm going to see what google comes up with, curious sake.
I know it doesn't have any merc numbers on it.
Can anyone post pics of the factory heat exchanger for said serial number range motor?
 

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Googling 1996 merc 7.4L heat exchanger I found this image:
This appears to be the same heat exchanger as my boat. I guess it is factory. But I don't have what looks like two aluminum mounts located directly under this HE. And very interesting is the (i believe) antifreeze coolent line coming off the riser block, not the top
Of the manifold, just as I was talking about!!
Interesting ??
 

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mercruiser used 4 different vendors over the years for heat exchangers. they sourced their own brackets.. last time I checked, the Big blocks alone had over 40 different heat exchanger part numbers
 
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