3 Boys found dead

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CAMDEN, N.J. - Police searched block by block Thursday in a neighborhood where three boys vanished while playing outside, and fire officials planned to use boats to search the nearby Delaware River.<br /><br />Officials said they think the boys, ages 5 to 11, are too young to have wandered very far since last being seen Wednesday evening. The river is about three blocks from the home where they were playing.<br /><br />Police have used helicopters and search dogs to scour the neighborhood, and volunteers handed out fliers to passing cars displaying photos of Jesstin Pagan, 5; Daniel Agosto, 6; and Anibal Cruz, 11.<br /><br />“We’ve done everything we can. The only thing we can do now is hope and pray we’ll turn around and they’ll be walking down the sidewalk and saying, ’We’re here,”’ said Jennifer Calo, an aunt of Cruz.<br /><br />Police Capt. Harry Leon said Cruz has the mental capacity of a younger child, part of the reason officials think the trio stayed in the area. The boys were playing in the side yard of Cruz’s home at about 5 p.m. when they were last seen by relatives. Agosto lives across the street.<br /><br />“I turned my back for two seconds and they were gone,” said Jessica Pagan, Jesstin’s mother, who brought her son from their home in nearby Mount Ephraim to the city to visit friends.<br /><br />Local merchants told relatives the boys were seen at a water-ice stand, a pizza parlor and a store Wednesday evening<br /><br />The area is about three blocks from the Delaware River. Leon said the fire department planned to search there.<br /><br />Late Thursday morning, as residents turned out to help, a police search dog was followed through the streets by officers, reporters and onlookers, including children on bikes and mothers with strollers.<br /><br />Police Chief Edwin Figueroa said authorities had received several reported sightings of the children in different parts of the city.<br /><br />The home from which they disappeared is a few doors from a school and in a neighborhood that is safer than most in Camden, which last fall was ranked most dangerous city in the United States in a reference book that compares crime statistics.
 
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“I turned my back for two seconds and they were gone,” said Jessica Pagan, Jesstin’s mother, who brought her son from their home in nearby Mount Ephraim to the city to visit friends.<br />
NO EXCUSE-NONE!!!!<br /><br />With the perverts and deviants running around now (due to our "permissive society") I don't doubt they were "snatched". Let's hope/pray not.<br /><br />Prosecute the parents along with the "deviants".
 
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snapper,<br /><br />
Yup.... At the very least, send the parents the bill...
Not always an option. There ae plenty of hungry lawyers (and a jury of idiots to agree) out there that can "excuse" you from anything-including/especially bills<br /><br /><br />BTW, LOVE the Avatar. :D
 

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Only by the grace of God have my kids not been snatched up. I try to keep an eye on them; however, it is hard to do. <br /><br />Name one parent who, during their kids lifetime, never lost sight of their child for a moment! <br /><br />I was born in 1970. When I was young my dad would simply tell me that I should be in "ear-shot". When it was time for me to come home, he would call my name loudly one time. I had better "be outside" and hear him and then race home. If I didn't, he came looking for me with his belt in hand. He used it on my rear-end the entire way home. Trust me, a time or two of that happening and I had my ears "open" and all of my friend's ears as well. I learned to sprint at an early age.<br /><br />I know times are different now, but my parents had no idea where I was at when I was age 7 and up, but they knew they could find me if they called me. I do agree that parents are responsible for their children.
 

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When I was a kid, mine always knew where I was.<br />I had a fenced in area where I stayed when I was outside and when I went to my grandparents house to stay with them while they worked the farm, I would be tied to a tree with a long rope so they knew where I was.<br /><br />Man how times have changed in the last 45 years or so.
 
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James,<br /><br />I beat you by 11 years. In the "sixties" we didn't care. We knew who the town "pervert" was and avoided him.<br /><br />There was only one.<br /><br />Now, there are many. <br /><br />TOO scary for many younguns today. <br /><br />Our "permissive" society has created these monsters.
 

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Wow!! DJ and I are usually more in sync. <br /><br />I am with James on this one.<br /><br />I live 35 miles east of Downtown L.A. Chino Hills it's called. We are five minutes from freeways etc. but we have hills and pastureland, even a creek and a swamp. We also have good neighbors and yes, I am sure our "fair" share of perverts. There are a number of us that let our kids go house to house without an escort. Especially if they are together. And of course we let them bang around in the hills along with the rattle snakes. Jeez, these kids have to have a life. Me and the Mrs. too. I am not gonna keep my eyes on them 24/7. Not possible, practical or right . . .<br /><br />Yes, they were in a more dangerous city, but if "turned my back for two seconds" means just that, then I don't see the parents as negligent, let alone criminal.
 
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QC,<br /><br />I do not believe the "two seconds" statement for the life of me.<br /><br />Two seconds was probably twenty minutes. You know, cell phone call, Oprah, etc. We see it here everyday, here in Phoenix, with child drownings.<br /><br />IRRESPONSIBLE parents. That is 99% OF THE CULPRIT.<br /><br />I, as you, used to roam the countryside, with no worries. What the HE!! happened? Permiscuity is what happened.<br /><br />I will be first to agree that many so called "perverts" have benn prosecuted without cause. All it takes today is a "child" to say so. And, one does not think that children pick up on this? Along with our "lawyering up" we're also "shrinking up". Meaning Psycologists/Psycoanalysts.<br /><br />We can't, as a society, seem to face our own problems. No wonder, we don't actually talk to anyone anymore.
 

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Yeah DJ, the two seconds thing is a major question. Maybe another question is how close were they to home etc.<br /><br />Pool drownings are a very tragic one and in that case parents would be much closer to negligent. I guess I want to give this grieving parent a break until we all know what really happened.
 

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CAMDEN, N.J. - The bodies of three young boys missing since Wednesday were found Friday by the father of one of the boys in the trunk of a car parked in a driveway next to the yard where they were last seen. <br /><br />A police briefing was expected soon, WCAU-TV reported.<br /><br />Police activity in the area around Bergen Avenue became frenzied around 6:30 p.m., according to sources at the scene. <br /><br />Yolanda DeNeely Aguilard, an aide to Mayor Gwendolyn Faison, confirmed that the bodies had been found. She had no immediate information on how the boys died. <br /><br />A neighbor, Carmen Cilla, said she saw David Agosto open the trunk of the maroon Toyota and collapse to his knees screaming. Agosto was then overcome by grief and was later taken away by EMTs. Police rushed to the scene and immediately cordoned off the property with yellow crime scene tape and draped white sheets over the tape to shield the car from view. <br /><br />No further details were available.<br /><br />The families of the three Camden boys had made a tearful plea to the public Friday afternoon for help finding their missing children. There was a $9,000 reward from the Citizens Crime Commission for any information and the public was invited to contribute. <br /><br />The three children have been identified as Anibal Cruz, 11; Daniel Agosto, 6; and Jesstin "Manny" Pagan, 5, all of Camden.<br /><br />Anibal Cruz and Daniel Agosto both lived in Camden's largely Puerto Rican Cramer Hill neighborhood. Pagan lived several miles away in Mount Ephraim. Pagan and his mother had been visiting Cruz's home. <br /><br />It was not immediately clear if the car had been searched previously. Nor was it clear how the boys got into the vehicle. <br /><br />The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

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They are saying now that the police had searched the car but had failed to look in the trunk.<br />I feel for the one's that missed that point.
 

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Is it possible the boys got into the trunk by themself's? They may have been playing and got locked in with no way out? This is very sad, and being a father of 2 it can be hard to keep an eye on a child 24/7. It only takes that 1 sec. to change life forever. I don't think we should start burning the parents at the stake until we know the facts.
 

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We used to have public information "adverts" here in the '70s about the dangers of playing with old fridges for the same reason.
 

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Several years ago there was some thought on putting a release button it the trunk in case something like this happened. Seems like it was a high profile snatched person that got this going. Maybe we should get it started again?
 

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Originally posted by Stratosfied:<br /> Several years ago there was some thought on putting a release button it the trunk in case something like this happened.
I believe this is already in place as all of the newer cars I have rented recently have inside trunk releases.
 

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FWIW, Federal law requires cars made beginning in 2002 to have release latches inside the trunks of cars.<br />That did not help these kids.<br /><br />The assist rods were bad and they(family) had the trunk propped open and they assume the kids got in and removed the prop allowing the trunk to close and lock.
 

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My 2002 Chevy Impala has a glow-in-the dark handle located in the trunk that will help if a kids gets locked in our trunk. It is right next to the trunk light so it lights up pretty well, even if only illuminated for a brief period of time.<br /><br />I wonder if those boys were just playing "hide and seek" and just got caught in the trunk.<br /><br />It is terribly sad. You'd think neighbors would hear their screams before they were oxygen deprived/heat exhausted.
 
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My 2002 Chevy Impala has a glow-in-the dark handle located in the trunk that will help if a kids gets locked in our trunk. It is right next to the trunk light so it lights up pretty well, even if only illuminated for a brief period of time.<br />
So does every American nameplate car. First introduced on Ford products.<br /><br />Not mandated-yet. Wait and see.
 

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So sad they knew the trunk was not working and failed to look into it till it was to late.<br /><br />My heart goes out to those parents.
 
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