2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

Badfish210

Cadet
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
6
I have a 2010 Mercruiser 4.3 TKS 2bbl with Alpha I outdrive. I cant seem to get it to start? I'm not sure if it is related yet, but happened last week after it rained the night before and it took a while for it to start, but it finally did and has started ran fine several time since then. It rained again last night and now I can get it to start. Even with starting fluid this time. Dosent even sound like it wants to.

Some of the symptoms are:

It cranks and cranks, then I let OFF the key and in slowly cranks once or twice more and lets a white puff or two out the carb that I think is gas vapor??? I do not think it is steam or water.

I thought it might be a spark issue, but I took one for the team and it zapped the hell out of me at the coil and the plug although I did not take any voltage reading and am not really sure how to other than a spark tester.

The plugs did not look saturated or oily.

It is getting fuel in the carb and you can hear the fuel pump running with the fuel on.

I have changed the water fuel filter and looked at the filter in the carb and it was ok. Have used several tanks of gas in the last two weeks and the gas is the fancy marine stuff.

It started and ran 100% normal the day before for 6 hours.

I disconnected the fuel pump for a minute thinking it might be flooded and cranked to try to burn off the gas then reconnected it and nothing, even with starting fluid.

I removed the distributor cap and it was dry under and the points?? looked ok as well, just very minor corrosion that I cleaned up and put back (in the same order) and still nothing.

Its in neutral and shift interrupter is positioned as it should be.

I have tried flooring it and no gas at all when starting.

Wires and engine are not getting wet when it rains.

Does need a minimum fuel pressure to start on tks? Or batt voltage? Its turning fine?? Is my coil crap? Is it an issue with the TKS? Can it be overridden?

Probably a separate issue, but it has been misting gas out my vent pipe when refueling. I attributed it to refueling too fast on the dock (very fast pumps), but I should check my vent line tomorrow. But its getting gas in the carb...ahhhh.



I just want to say thanks ahead of time to Don S and the other Mods that spend countless hours managing this board and answering questions. This is my fist post, but these forums have helped countess times. Thanks. :)
 

Don S

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Aug 31, 2004
Messages
62,321
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

I guess the first thing I would look at is what gets wet when it rains? Any moisture IN the distributor cap?
 

Badfish210

Cadet
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
6
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

No moisture in the cap when I pulled it off.

Nothing is getting when when it rains, I just noticed the two times it happend it had rained the night before. It might just be a coincidence, but maybe not.

Have you seen white puffs out the carb and a couple chugs after the key is off?

Thanks Don.
 

Badfish210

Cadet
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
6
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

I replaced the fuel filter, cap and rotor today and still nothing. It sounds the same with the coil wire off, so I'm thinking it might be the coil?? I will be replacing that tomorrow. Throwing parts at it unless someone has any suggestions. I would take it to the shop, but its stuck on a dock in the middle of the river.

Any help?? Thanks.
 

scoflaw

Ensign
Joined
Jun 2, 2010
Messages
962
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

You might want to have the error codes read, could give you a clue.
 

Badfish210

Cadet
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
6
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

I didnt even know it logged the codes. It dosent have the smartcraft? Does it do this in the ICM?

I found a mechanic that will go to the boat tomorrow so hopefully he has the means to do this.

What about jumping the coil?
 

NHGuy

Captain
Joined
May 21, 2009
Messages
3,631
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

I think the TKS motors have no ecm to remember any codes. You diagnose em he old fashioned way.
 

edsmax

Cadet
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Messages
14
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

I would double check all of your ignition and battery connections. My first thought was moisture in the distributor cap. Another possibility with intermittent running ok/no start is the distributor module failing. I would be surprised if this was the case as you should have the updated version and they do not fail too often. It can be tested if you remove it.
 

Badfish210

Cadet
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
6
Re: 2010 4.3 TKS Will Not Start? After Rain?

Thank you to all who had suggestions.

I went out on a limb and picked up a coil before the mechanic got to the boat today and sure as sh*t the old girl fired up right away.

A 2010 4.3 TKS already needing a coil...WTF??? Funny thing is that I had to call around because the coils are apparently on back order at atleast 2 merc dealers in my area. Make me think they might have put a turd in these models.

Good news is I didnt have to pay the mechanic, so I was happy paying $80 for a new coil, and nothing like the satisfaction of repairing yourself!!
 
Top