2005 115 hp Optimax hard to start

butlp

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My Optimax has always from new seemed to crank for along time before it finally fires and then it runs great.
I have replaced all the fuel lines, filters, plugs, cleaned the VST and pulled the fuel rail and checked all the injectors for dirt, blow by and direct injector leak back. Everything checks out perfectly and all the seals and o rings look in great shape. I checked the fuel and air pressure with it running and air was 80 psi and fuel was 95 psi.
In my Mercury workshop manual it says:
”Compressor Note: To aid starting when the air rail pressure is low and before the compressor has time to build pressue, some direct injectors are held open by the PCM. This allows the compression from inside the cylinder to pressurize the air rail faster”
I believe this is the problem! If I stop the motor and then immediately restart, it fires right up, but if I wait a minute or so, it cranks forever.
It’s so bad that it destroyed the ring gear and starter motor dog and of course Mercury will only sell a complete flywheel a starter.
Does anyone have an idea how to get this “ cold start” functioning? I talked to a local service guy and frankly I knew more about the system than he did, but he does have access to the Mercury computer if it’s something in the PCM.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

butlp

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
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My Optimax has always from new seemed to crank for along time before it finally fires and then it runs great.
I have replaced all the fuel lines, filters, plugs, cleaned the VST and pulled the fuel rail and checked all the injectors for dirt, blow by and direct injector leak back. Everything checks out perfectly and all the seals and o rings look in great shape. I checked the fuel and air pressure with it running and air was 80 psi and fuel was 95 psi.
In my Mercury workshop manual it says:
”Compressor Note: To aid starting when the air rail pressure is low and before the compressor has time to build pressue, some direct injectors are held open by the PCM. This allows the compression from inside the cylinder to pressurize the air rail faster”
I believe this is the problem! If I stop the motor and then immediately restart, it fires right up, but if I wait a minute or so, it cranks forever.
It’s so bad that it destroyed the ring gear and starter motor dog and of course Mercury will only sell a complete flywheel a starter.
Does anyone have an idea how to get this “ cold start” functioning? I talked to a local service guy and frankly I knew more about the system than he did, but he does have access to the Mercury computer if it’s something in the PCM.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I purchased a 1000 cranking amps marine battery today as the one on the boat was 3 years old and my load tester said it was not 100%. Unfortunately this made absolutely no difference and it still cranked and cranked before starting.
I checked compression and all around 120psi.
Im going to check the resistance of the battery cables and grounds, they are the original Mercury and no more than 6 feet long.
The ring gear is showing ware already and I know it’s not recommended to put any lubricants on it ,but I was considering pure graphite or similar dry lubricant. Any suggestions?
Anybody have suggestions on what to try next🤷‍♂️
 

butlp

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I purchased a 1000 cranking amps marine battery today as the one on the boat was 3 years old and my load tester said it was not 100%. Unfortunately this made absolutely no difference and it still cranked and cranked before starting.
I checked compression and all around 120psi.
Im going to check the resistance of the battery cables and grounds, they are the original Mercury and no more than 6 feet long.
The ring gear is showing ware already and I know it’s not recommended to put any lubricants on it ,but I was considering pure graphite or similar dry lubricant. Any suggestions?
Anybody have suggestions on what to try next🤷‍♂️
Finally sorted out the starting issue. The air pump reed valve block was leaking even though it checked out with all the tests in the workshop manual. I replaced the pipe from the pump to the fuel rail too and used crimp clamps instead of screw style hose clamps.
From cold motor starts after 3 revolutions and immediately if it has been running.
I honestly think the reed block has been bad since new as it’s never started this well.
I hope this helps someone with similar problems.
 
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