2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

coot23

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The outboard ran perfect last saturday. it has power to the engine but just ticks when i turn the key. maybe a solenoid or starter? any help would be great
 

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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

Check for corrosion at the battery terminals, check battery for charge and if it is discharged the charging system may be faulty- charge the battery and test when running, solenoid would be next on the list after the first suggestions.
 

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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

ok thanks. i think i found my problem. i have a bad charger it looks like. thanks for the help!
 

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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

I believe that you can use a solenoid from an auto parts store, so long as it is the same diameter and will fit.
 

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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

NO auto solenoids are body ground. you will blow you electronics. make sure emergency kill lanyard is connected properly.

90% of starter problems are bad connections. remove and clean both ends of the battery cables, so that they are shiney, also the cable from the solenoid to starter. check for nicks in the cables. and make sure the connectors are on the wire good. the cable tend to corrode from the inside out, if nicked, corroded wires, and connections, heat up and cause resistance to the follow of electricity, thus the starter doesn't get enough. you can also take jumper cable pos battery post to large post on starter. with a good connection, the engine should spin. then if the starter is good clean everything and retest. then trouble shoot solenoid. starters can be rebuit at a starter/alternator shop, much cheaper than a new one.

also have the battery load tested at the auto parts store, free, i've had new batteries go bad

http://www.iboats.com/Johnson_Outboard_Parts/dm/view_id.271265
 

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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

where might i find that solenoid?

Find it to replace it or to test it? You just posted that it was a charging problem, solenoid has nada to do with charging.
 

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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

NO auto solenoids are body ground. you will blow you electronics.
http://www.iboats.com/Johnson_Outboard_Parts/dm/view_id.271265



So does that mean I should change the auto one out that is grounded to the powerhead and that has been working flawlessly for 3 yrs on my Johnson? I don't want to fry anything if this is an issue, I knew there were differences between marine and auto, thought it was in the grounding construction, marine doesn't require grounding and auto does. How exactly does using an auto solenoid fry stuff?


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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

I had no idea that an auto solenoid was any different than a marine....it is good to know though.
 

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I had no idea that an auto solenoid was any different than a marine....it is good to know though.

I knew they were, it has to do with grounding and construction but never heard of blowing electronics with one installed. I am curious to find out the explaination as to why it blows electronics.
 

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Re: 2003 Johnson 150 won't turn over

Marine parts vs automotive parts?

The MAJOR difference is the Marine parts have been tested and certified for use in the marine environment, auto parts have not.

Basic difference in construction of electrical parts is flame arrestment, any internal spark cannot by vented to the surrounding area to cause a flash/fire, potentially killing the operator and passengers. Generally these parts are either sealed with o-rings or any 'vents' are covered with a screen which will contain any possible internal spark/flame.

Secondary difference is the metals used are not as likely to corrode and thus lose function.

Automotive parts CAN work, for a time, and at an increased risk to life, limb, and property.
 
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