2002 350 Mag MPI Serial Number OM310xxx

lilhuff

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OK so I got this project boat out of storage after my son took me on a break working on his house he bought a year ago. I had previosly replaced the following:
ECM, both fuel pumps, coil, spark plugs, almost all sensors sent fuel injectors out to be reconditioned 7 good replaced one, changed gas out fuel water seperator, and others I am probably forgeting.
So it starts right up runs for 4-5 seconds and dies there is not enough time to mess with the throttle but it seems like it might die quicker when you try and give it more gas but it is hard to tell.
The fuel pumps start for a few seconds and the pressure on the fuel rail reads 43psi which is what I found in the manual. While the engine cranks it drops to 40psi and once it starts the pressure drops to 34-35 psi. I ran a fuel injector test through the rinda and it fired all injecors and drop fuel pressure to zero. When I started it up after the test it seemd like it ran a few seconds longer. Might be my imagination though.
It has the following codes that I cannot erase with my Rinda:
94 Pitot Lo
75 Fuel Lvl circuit Hi
119 Steer circuit Lo
104 Seatemp Circuit Hi
191 Fuel Lvl Ckt 2 Hi
I erase them through the Rinda and they still are there when you go straight back to a scan after erasing them. I was going to try and run it off of a gas can and look at replacing the fuel regulator but did not want to do start throwing parts at it. I would think it should still run at 34psi at idle but am not sure.

Is the 34psi to low that it would cause the engine to die?
Any sugestions would be appreciated.
 

achris

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..It has the following codes that I cannot erase with my Rinda:
94 Pitot Lo
75 Fuel Lvl circuit Hi
119 Steer circuit Lo
104 Seatemp Circuit Hi
191 Fuel Lvl Ckt 2 Hi
I erase them through the Rinda and they still are there when you go straight back to a scan after erasing them.

Not sure why people don't put their full serial number up. I can't find out if it's an inboard or a sterndrive, and what accessories it was supplied with if you don't give us the full serial number.

Ok, assuming it's a sterndrive or inboard without external sensors, those 'error codes' are normal. If you don't have a fuel level sensor (digital) or steering position sensor, or seawater temperature sensor, then it is going to throw up those codes... All the time.

lilhuff said:
I was going to try and run it off of a gas can and look at replacing the fuel regulator but did not want to do start throwing parts at it. I would think it should still run at 34psi at idle but am not sure.

Is the 34psi to low that it would cause the engine to die?
Any sugestions would be appreciated.

Spec for the pump pressurwe is 43psi. If it's not at 43psi, then it's faulty, and even at idle will not be delivering the right fuel quantity. ie, it'll run like a bag of poo, if it runs at all.

Chris.........
 

alldodge

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Test the fuel pressure regulator on the cool fuel module
 

lilhuff

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Thanks for the responses. Chris I am not sure why either I had just saw others do it and went into lemming mode. It is an in-board serial number OM310754. I will look at the manual and test the regulator next. Thanks.
 

lilhuff

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Sorry guys I appreciate the responses but I only get a chance to work on this boat every so often. I pulled the fuel regulator off above the fuel cooler and it had some light external rust, I could not tell it was doing anything when a vacuum was applied and it looked original so I ordered a new one with the screen, o-ring and washer. Put them on this afternoon and it still does the same thing. With the ignition on the fuel pumps come on and pump 43lbs then drop to 40 and once started drop to 34-35lbs and the engine dies. Is there a test for the fuel pumps our should I start at some logical point in the fuel line system and look for an obstruction. The vacuum line did look good but does not have any clamps or ties at the connections. Thanks,
Lilhuff
 

alldodge

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The anti siphon valve on the tank is first choice, then you just work your way thru. That said, need to test your pump. Remove the fuel line going to the rail and attach the gauge and then a shut off valve. What your wanting to find out is if the pump will pressurize to 60 psi. You do not want the rail or the regulator attached when doing this test, because it can damage them
 
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