2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

Bullshark

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Hello everyboday and hopefully someone can tell me what I am missing. I have a 2001 OX66 250 that is not pumping oil from the remote tank to the main tank. I have replaced the remote tank, oil tank harness, sending unit in main tank, all lines that feed to the main tank. When you press the over ride switch the pump comes on but it will not work automatically. I have been reading some posts but i see where people are saying green lights and red lights all of my gauges are new and the key switch is new but I dont have lights on it. Could this be the problem and if not any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!
 

rodbolt

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

post a picture of your digital guages, you should have bars.
instead of chunking parts at it test switches.
does SWB work?
what indicates do you get on the tach?
are you aware that automatic transfer can only occur if the engines is running?
other than the 180 second pump on initial fill.
 

Bullshark

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

Hey Rodbolt, I do not have digital gauges is that something required on these to make that system work? I did read that the pump will only work while running but I have had it on the muffs and it is still not pumping.
 

rodbolt

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

not having the correct rigging wont stop the oil transfer but it will tell you if SWB is open or closed or possibly the wireing to it is bad.
if swb is open automatic transfer is prohibited.
drain the engine tank, with the remote tank at least 1/2 full turn the key on. pump should run for 180 seconds.
thats where the correct rigging comes in handy, if the far left bar is flashing when the key got turned on go fix the SWB circuit, if all three bars were flashing go fix the power supply or pump ground path.
but noiw ya simply gotta trace the wiring.
 

quo_vadis

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

In my case it was trim sensor not working correctly (Yamaha OX66 150 hp 2000). In one his previous post from Rodbold he was saying that not all engines model are taking into account position of the engine. In my case once I fixed cam trim sender (this bend with a screw) oil transfer start working.
 

rodbolt

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

90-95 V6 2.6 L engines ONLY used trim send for oil transfer.
the rest of the V6 line up since 95 used a run signal from the pulser coil. no signal no transfer.
all 3.1 and 3.3 L motors used a pulser coil signal.all 2.6L motors since 1996 used a pulser coil signal.

some V4 modules use it and some 84-89 v6 2.6l replacement modules use it.
the original antique V motors used a mercury switch in a module under the engine oil tank.
I am looking at the sx150 manual for 99, the harness diagram, like the tech guide doesnt show anything that feeds the CDI information about trim angle.
 

nautihabits

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

Rodbolt helped me diagnose mine and understand how the reserve and engine tank senders work independant of each other. Found out that I was not getting a signal to the reserve tank because of a bad plug connection. Check the plugs. I cut the lug out and hardwired it with shrink wrap connectors and am out fishing agin. Like he said there is alot of good information if you search Precision Blend. I thought I knew how it worked but I totally understand the oil injection system now.
 

99yam40

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

Hello everyboday and hopefully someone can tell me what I am missing. I have a 2001 OX66 250 that is not pumping oil from the remote tank to the main tank. I have replaced the remote tank, oil tank harness, sending unit in main tank, all lines that feed to the main tank. When you press the over ride switch the pump comes on but it will not work automatically. I have been reading some posts but i see where people are saying green lights and red lights all of my gauges are new and the key switch is new but I dont have lights on it. Could this be the problem and if not any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!

See if this will help you understand it better

 

99yam40

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

Hello everyboday and hopefully someone can tell me what I am missing. I have a 2001 OX66 250 that is not pumping oil from the remote tank to the main tank. I have replaced the remote tank, oil tank harness, sending unit in main tank, all lines that feed to the main tank. When you press the over ride switch the pump comes on but it will not work automatically. I have been reading some posts but i see where people are saying green lights and red lights all of my gauges are new and the key switch is new but I dont have lights on it. Could this be the problem and if not any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks!

See if this will help you understand it better or troubleshoot the system

http://www.yamahaoutboardparts.com/48016-post2.html
 

nautihabits

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

Same problem I had but on a 1993 250. Signal was not getting from engine tank sender to remote tank pump. Have to check the engine tank sender then chase it back through the harness for continuity.
 

nautihabits

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

Here is a compilation of a bunch of posts on the Precision Blend by Rodbolt and others who know alot more about it than me.

Your precision blend system has several things going on at once. The engine tank contains 3 switches and a water trap. The top switch, blue/white to black shuts off the automatic transfer, the middle switch, blue/green to black turns on the auto transfer, the bottom blue/red to black sets the audible for low oil and sets the engine into RPM reduction.

The remote tank contains a simple on off switch. If the tank has enough oil for auto transfer the switch is closed (continuity) if not or the switch is bad auto transfer is inhibited but emergency still works. At key on the brown wire at the remote tank is 12V+ the blue is the ground path and is completed by either the ECU based on switch positions (commands) from the engine tank or via the toggle switch for emergency transfer. A clogged filter at the remote tank may allow oil to be consumed faster from the engine tank than the transfer pump can supply.

Quick checks ?
Remote connector - check black (harness side) to engine block for continuity, check continuity black to black red (switch side) check 12V to block key on engine off.
Engine tank - unplug the oil tank connector, check oil tank side with tank full blue/white to black, continuity, cut the tie strap and remove the water trap drain the oil into a clean container, when the level goes below the lower tank mark check the blue green to black, should have continuity.
Automatic transfer - engine tank low, remote full, key on, the transfer pump will run 180 seconds. During that time frame check the blue pump wire to ground for continuity. Remember if the black and black/red wires have lost contact, the ECU "sees" it as low remote level and auto transfer is inhibited.
NEVER remove the engine tank screen/switch assembly without first DRAINING the engine tank and ALWAYS retrieve and replace the screen to tank seal. Failure to follow this can lead to catastrophic engine failure.
The "spongy" thing on the bottom of the engine tank screen is a seal. It seals between the screen and the tank bottom and MUST be replaced any time the screen is removed or the seal could get shoved into the pump intake hose when the screen is reinstalled.
The oil transfer pump ground path is controlled by either the manual switch OR the ECU, has absolutely nothing to do with the remote switch or engine tank switches. The ground path for the normally closed remote tank switch signals the ECU that enough oil remains for automatic transfer. When it opens, or a wire breaks, you will get a center bar, arrow or yellow lamp on the tachometer and no automatic transfer.
If the engine tank is low and the ECU "sees" enough oil in the remote for transfer you will get 3 bars (arrows) flashing and an audible and the transfer pump will run for 180 seconds. The engine tank should fill and the pump shut off prior to time out or your remote tank filter may be plugged / restricted. That is the ONLY time your pump should run with key on engine off. Other than that the engine MUST be running for automatic transfer on 2.6L V motors from 1996 to present.
 

rodbolt

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Re: 2001 OX66 Oil Injection Problems

dang
I am glad some folks read what I and others type.
makes all the time not seem a total waste.
but that about sums up how the system works.
SW1 is engine tank top position,SW2 is engine tank middle position SW3 is engine tank lowest position, SWB is remote tank.
in normal operation SW1 and SW2 simply bounce between on and off.
SW2 commands pump on, and the pump runs until SW1 commands pump off.
and it does it day after day year after year.
over the years there have been some minor variations in the V4 and V6 line up but mostly just how the oil control module sees the commands as valid signals.
 
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