1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

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I just bought a boat with a 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7GS with 120 hours on it. Someone told me I should expect to see compression numbers between 150 and 170 does that sound right?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />ML
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

a little on the high side. More likely 140 to 150 of you engine is in good shape
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Around 170 is very typical on that year engine.
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

And there should be good correlation between the cylinders.
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Mike,<br /><br />When you say correlation I take it you mean the numbers should be close together?<br /><br />I've heard you want the pressure of the lowest cylinder to be within 10% of the highest. Can the numbers in between just gradually come down on steps from the top number?<br /><br />Thanks
 

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Below is a copy and paste from a Volvo service manual for your engine.<br /><br /><br />Test Conclusion<br />The indicated compression pressures are considered normal if<br />the lowest reading cylinder is within 75% of the highest.<br />Example:<br />ff the highest pressure reading was 140 PSI, 75% of 140 is 105.<br />Therefore, any cylinder reading tess than 105 PSi indicates an<br />improperly seated vaBve, worn valve guides, piston, cylinder, or<br />worn or broken piston rings. Any cylinder reading 105 PSi or<br />greater is within specifications, and compression is considered<br />normal.<br />if one or more cylinders read low, squirt approximately one<br />tablespoon of engine oil on top of the pistons in the low reading<br />cylinders. Repeat compression pressure check on the cylinders.<br />1. if compression improves considerably, the piston rings are at<br />fault.<br />2. if compressiond oes not improve, valves are sticking or seating<br />poorly, or valve guides are worn.<br />3. If two adjacent cylinders indicate low compression pressures<br />and squirting oil on the pistons does not increase the compression,<br />the cause may be a cylinder head gasket neak between the<br />cylinders. This problem could allow engine oil and/or coolant to<br />enter the cylinders.
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Wow they are saying a 25% difference between cylinders is ok? I've always thought 10% difference was the most acceptable difference.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />ML
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Originally posted by Don S:<br /> Below is a copy and paste from a Volvo service manual for your engine.<br /><br /><br />Test Conclusion<br />The indicated compression pressures are considered normal if<br />the lowest reading cylinder is within 75% of the highest.<br />
WOW indead, and it's from the horses mouth (VP, not Don ;) ). If I saw a 105 next to a 140, I'd be getting the quoting pad out.<br /><br />Do you agree with VP's statement, Don?<br /><br /><br />Aldo
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Test completed! I tested the starboard side and all four were within 1 or 2 lbs of 193. I then tested the port side and all numbers were within 1 or 2 pounds of 190. <br /><br />Very consistant numbers yet there was an obvious difference on the oppossing heads. <br /><br />A friend of my speculated that when the machined the heads there was a micro difference in measurements making the seal slightly different. <br /><br />Any body else know what might have happened. <br /><br />With these numbers I think I have a new motor!<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />ML
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

I dunno, there is a ton of things but combusion chamber volumn is a good guess, either way worring about a 3 psi delta is silly......I agree the motor compresion numbers are top notch.
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

I would be curious how you did the test. I have done lots of compression tests on that vintage engine and NEVER found them that high or that consistant. It just doesn't happen in real life.
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Don,<br /><br />I have a brand new Snap On compression test kit which cost me a fortune and is extremely accurate. <br /><br />I did not heat up the engine first. I did this cold. I have heard if I did it with a warm engine I would get a slightly higher compression. <br /><br />The motor looks brand new. When I removed the spark plugs I could see they were the original spark plugs. The motor is a 1998 but only has 130 documented hours. If I told you it was brand new and I just put it in you would believe me because it is beautiful. It was always stored in doors by the wealthy old guy that owned the boat. <br /><br />I removed the spark plugs and screwed in my appropriate sized hose from my compression kit. I previously removed all cables from my plugs so as not to start the motor. <br /><br />After screwing in the hose until it was snug. I turned over the motor 3 seconds. I did that about 3 times at 3 seconds to get full compression which it would not go above. <br /><br />I did that for each cylinder. I had a friend with me who is a very good mechanic and he supervised the process.<br /><br />When I spoke with the Volvo dealer prior to this test they estimated I would get 170-180 on the test. They were probably thinking this was an old motor. It's really brand new. When you talk about never getting that high a compression on that "vintage" of motor you have to realize this is not your usual vintage motor. <br /><br />I wonder what this motor had for compression the day it was built?<br /><br />Anyway that's what I did. <br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />ML
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

You really needed to pull all the plugs to let the motor spin freely. Then ground out the ignition and open the throttle to WOT to do your test - that may be leading to your artificially high numbers. Anyone thinking carbon build up which could be artificially raising the CR?
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

MackSea,<br /><br />Should I just disconnect the starter? Also, can you exlain why WOT throttle would change my numbers? Why do you need all of the plugs out?<br /><br />I have heard about doing those things but I'm just curious about the reasoning behind it. <br /><br />Leaving the throttle open seems like it would flood the motor? <br /><br />Do you think I should do this test over? Or is this a good motor?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />ML
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

In my experince (although I am no expert) WOT only decreases time to fill and reach max reading. (Carb motors, I have seen EFI Auto appacations that would read very very low or no compression without throttle opening if the IAC is closed.
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Do we have any experts who do compression tests dailey who can explain the proper procedure for doing a compression check and also explain why you do the things the way you do it? <br /><br />I don't think my compression is going to get lower by taking all the plugs out and going WOT throttle.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />ML
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

removeing the plugs allows the motor to spin freely<br /><br />haveing the carb OPEN allows air to enter the motor freely<br /><br />this is the correct way to do it <br /><br /><br />tommays
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Below is a link that has the procedures for doing a compression test. It's a Mercruiser service bulletin, and the Volvo procedure is exactly the same. I would imagine it's a GM procedure.<br /><br /> http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Bullet/97/97_25.pdf
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

Thanks Don,<br /><br />Do you think I did any damage to my engine by doing it how I described. It ran great after the test, but now I'm concerned since I did it wrong.<br /><br />Should I do it again properly or should I trust my first numbers? <br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />ML
 

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Re: 1998 Volvo Penta 5.7 GS Compression?

I doubt you hurt anything, but once you do it the right way, you will really know what your compression is, and it won't be 193.
 
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