1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

joonch65

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How do I disable the neutral switch? I want to be able to start the motor when its in reverse.O/Bjk
 

WillyBWright

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

You don't. That would be naughty. ;) Why would you want to endanger people (yourself included) by starting in gear?<br /><br />Once upon a time in the 50's there were no neutral safety switches. Electric start was brand new and nobody knew any better. Then people started falling into the water when the driver started the boat in gear. Some got hurt, some died. So they started limiting throttle thinking that was the cure. But the boats still lurched even at slow speed and people still fell in and some died. So they made it so that the motor can't start in gear. That's a brief history of the Neutral Safety switch in boats.
 

joonch65

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Ill figure it out somehow. I had a feeling nobody would want to help.
 
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O/B,<br /><br />It's not that anyone doesn't want to help you. It's more that we don't want you to endanger yourself or passengers.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Actually,we don't want to hurt.<br /><br />If you do what you want,and someone else gets behind the helm who get's hurt?<br /><br />Do I want to help you do that?<br /><br />DHP
 

ob

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Not to mention the problems that starting a submerged 70 hp in gear(under load) would cause.Why in the world would you want to do it in the first place? :confused:
 

Walker

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Not to mention the huge lawsuit that will be filed against you if someone gets hurt because you knowingly disabled a safety feature.
 

fireman57

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

I have been trying to stay out of this fray but I also cannot think of any reason why a person would want to start an engine in gear. I mean I just cannot concieve a situation where it would even be warranted.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Maybe it stalls when put in gear,so if it could be started in gear......<br /><br />Maybe if we knew more.<br /><br />DHP
 

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Some folks ask for advice and when its given or questioned, they simply won't accept it so my question is why bother asking since you apparently are set on defeating this safety feature anyway. For years cars have had clutch and neutral start switches as have boats. They are installed in a boat to prevent you from inadvertently backing over a skier, tuber, swimmer, or diver or crashing into another boat, dock or other object. Not to mention from putting the stern under water. If your boat stalls in reverse fix it.
 

ob

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Aheh aheh aheh aheh aheh waa waa waaaaaaaaaaaa. :( <br /><br />some people just don't get it. :confused: <br /><br />Perhaps there is a terrorist boating site that can assist you in endangering yourself,others ,and your boat motor. :rolleyes:
 

DHPMARINE

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O/B jet kanobe<br /><br />Doing what you requested is very easy.We just think if you can't fiqute out how,you need to learn more before doing it.<br /><br />Stay with us,we're not all that bad.<br /><br />DHP
 

byordy

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

I sense an elitist, "better than thou" attitude here. Perhaps if someone had discovered the reason for O/B jet's' desire to start in reverse, (DHPMarine tried), and offered help in eliminating the situation that drove that desire OB jet kanobie could have been helped and this forum could have had another happy contributer.<br />I have to wonder who doesn't "get it".<br />Bill......
 

ob

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byordy,It was asked above why he wanted to do this unsafe procedure.Even his second statement alluded to this not going over so well.He never did offer to explain why he wanted to do it.Instead he responded with disrespectful ,whatever attitude.So there.<br /><br />Search the forums and you'll find thousands of times that I and many others have assisted members with info within our scope.I've seen friendly members get helped less wanting to disconnect a vro system.Providing procedures to disconnect a neutral safety switch requires a good reason.I can't think of one off hand.<br /><br />Maybe he has a jet drive and doesn't think it's a saftey issue,however that fact has not been established.
 

byordy

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Good Morning ob,<br />I've been around here a long time, although I don't post very often. It's well established that you and other members of this board have offered a wealth of information in many cases. This was not one of them.<br />Perhaps it is a jet drive (O/B jet...) might indicate that, although the same safety issues would apply, I think.<br />Anyway, enough of this, let's get back to boats and outboards. I have an old ('72) Dolphin Products 21' runabout with a '79 Evinrude 175 that I'm slowly restoreing. I've enjoyed reading your, and other's comments in the area of boat and outboard repair and restoration; in several cases they have been very helpful. I receive as much pleasure from working on the "old boat" as I do in running it.<br />Bill.......
 

fireman57

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Not trying to start WWIII here byordy but as ob said o/b jet has had ample opportunity to explain why he wanted to do this and has not. I'm sure everyone here, especially me, would take back their comments if given a good reason perform this procedure. DHPMARINE had a good point that this procedure is pretty simple if thought about. I believe we are all wondering what else he hasn't thought about. Not getting on anyone for anything just wondering why. Like DHP also stated "we're not all that bad."
 

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Too often the biggest obstacle in find a solution is defining the problem, or asking the right question.<br /><br />I'm afraid our old friend kanobie has gone over to the dark side. ;)
 

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Re: 1992 70 hp johnnie neutral safety switch

Here's a story (short) about a "nice guy" being taken through the court system. An acquaintence took pride in doing mechanic work on vehicles in his neighborhood of young families who didn't have a lot of money. One of those neighbors had him put new brake pads in his car. He then had an accident, claimed the brakes failed and sued the "nice guy". Keep in mind the guy only asked for beer money and often did the work for only the cost of parts (bring your own parts if you like). And I'm going to tell someone how to defeat a safety feature? Sure I know how but I'm certainly not going to explain how here. If that makes me elitist, so be it. (And we still don't know why he wants to do it).
 
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