1989 70hp Johnson runs 2000rpm-wot great below stalls out

scsdiver

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we have a 1989 70hp johnson. just to start we posted about two weeks ago about our ongoing over heating issue and th motor going into slow mode. The motor was running great and has been runnign at normal temps even now. we thought we had bad gas again as we have had several doses of bad gas. so we switched to good new gas and it seem to run fine on muffs. put it int he water last night and it was a little hard starting but once it got started it idled ok and idled for probably 10 minutes until we got out of the dock and mantee zones. as soona s we hit the throttle it reved right up and ran fine. so we ran it at about 3000rpm for about 15-20 min and it ran great. we slowed down and it came down to idle and we pulled up to a fishing spot. we fished for about 45 min or so it was about 65 out last night so the motor cooled pretty fast. anyways after fishing we tried to start and again would not start. i took the cover off and while cranking i advanced the throttle and turned the manual knob on the primer to about half way and it started. the tach said it was runnign about 2000 rpm. there was a good amount of smoke and it deff was not running great almost like it missing a cylinder. above 2000 it smoothed right out. once above 2000 i had to turn the manual primer knob back to normal off position and motor ran great back to the dock again it idled to the dock and deff ruff but it did stay running long enough to get on the trailer. we pulled it out and went to clean the boat and flush the motor and it started right up on muffs and run at about 1600 rpm for about 5 min no prob. it would spit and sputter a little but not terrible but it would not idle any lower than that or it would stall.

now here is a list of stuff we have done to it within the last two months. we have rebuilt the carbs about 2 months ago with omc kits. as im sure you guys know there is not much to these carbs as they are needle less. about two or three weeks ago we removed the carbs again and cleaned them out at someones recomendation for another issue. I have replaced the carb linkage arm, rebuilt the fuel pump, replaced the primer selonoid top (oops) and diaphram, replaced the plugs, installed a fuel/water seperator,replaced all fuel line, i believe that is all we have done in relationship to fuel issues. on a side not we did removed the exhaust/water side cover and cleaned a ton of scale out and installed new omc gasket, removed head and cleaned scale out installed new omc gasket. and any other part i replaced i used all omc parts.

also forgot to mention that we have had several bad (water) fuel issues and did after the problem this weekend switch from our installed fuel cell which is in the front of the boat to regular portable 6.5 gallon marine tanks that are in the back of the boat.
 

scsdiver

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Re: 1989 70hp Johnson runs 2000rpm-wot great below stalls out

we have read several of the posts on here but they all seem to say clean carbs or link and sync which has been done very recent. any thoguhts would be deffinetly appreciated. just for humor sake if back pressure is the issue can any one give me a idea on what or where to even starting lookin at that or how to diagnose it? i am going to remove and clean the carbs again tonight but past that i am really stumped
 

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Re: 1989 70hp Johnson runs 2000rpm-wot great below stalls out

What kind of compression on it do you have now ??
 

scsdiver

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Re: 1989 70hp Johnson runs 2000rpm-wot great below stalls out

yes i actually checked it tonight. all three cyclinders were between 113-115. we took the carb apart and cleaned but did not find or see anything that would have clogged them up. we did make sure that all three floats were traveling the same distance and level when closed.
 

scsdiver

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Re: 1989 70hp Johnson runs 2000rpm-wot great below stalls out

so to be honest we are not exactly sure which on of the things seem to solve the problem. but here is what we did. we removed the carbs and cleaned them but nothing was plugging anything we could see. we reset the floats on the carbs so they were level when closed and set them to 1-3/8" drop on all three of them. we bought new t's and fuel line to replace the line and the t's from the reducing 90 to the top carb. we replaced the gasket between the carb and air box. one of those seems to have solved the problem but then again we have only run it one time so if it runs ok then next couple trips ill update. there is only one thing i am not happy with the carbs seem to spit to me what is an exxcessive amount of fuel out of the front of the carbs. it seems to pool up around the brass pick up to the comes from the bowl to the venturi and then seaps out the front of the carb and then drips down the carb. i would say it drips a drop of fuel out every 2-4 seconds which maybe that is not much but all three carbs do it and seems a bit excessive to me. my only thought to solve this would be to adjust the floats so that they sit lower in the bowl maybe 1-1/2" so the bowls dont fill up so much or maybe that is not my issue at all?
 

oldcatamount

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Re: 1989 70hp Johnson runs 2000rpm-wot great below stalls out

How are the plugs looking? Are they fairly new and gapped right?
 

scsdiver

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Re: 1989 70hp Johnson runs 2000rpm-wot great below stalls out

yes they are brand new. they were replaced about a week ago and yes are gapped correctly.
 
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