1987 Suzuki 115 Questions

Waterrazor

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I am going to go look at a boat this weekend and it has an 87' 115 Suzuki. The ownwer said the powerhead was rebuilt and it only has 50 Hrs. on it. The boat has sat for two years and even though he has not tried, I don't think it will start? He said that the cyl. have 120# each.<br />What should I look for in the event that the engine won't start cause it's been sitting for such a long time? This would be my first encounter with a suzuki autboard. Are these engines any good?<br /><br />Thanks
 

bossee

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Re: 1987 Suzuki 115 Questions

> 87' 115 Suzuki<br />> powerhead was rebuilt<br />> only has 50 Hrs. on it<br />> The boat has sat for two years <br /><br />>and even though he has not tried, I don't think<br />>it will start?<br /><br />Hi,<br />If it start, there is a slight risk the impeller <br />(waterpump, rubber wheel) is not fresh. Impeller <br />should be changed every or every second year<br />depending how the engine is used.<br />There is a slight risk that if you start an <br />engine that has sat for 2 years some blade(s)<br />on the impeller rubber wheel will loose and get <br />sucked in the cooling system causing a block.<br /><br />If You run it on land make sure you use watermuffs<br />on both sides of the fin where the main <br />waterintake is and the muff connected to an <br />ordinary garden water house with plenty of water.<br /><br />The outboard watermuffs can be bought in any <br />marine shop.<br />But best to test with whole boat in water and <br />actually take a ride in the boat so you can see <br />how engine behave at load and whole rpm range.<br /><br />Make sure you get the reason the head was rebuilt.<br />(because of overheat?)<br /><br />Battery: is it fresh? (Maybe best to use a new<br />if the old has sat for over two years also).<br /><br />If it starts, make sure you can see water coming <br />out of main water outlet and also on the tell-<br />tale tube(a smaller jet of water that will spray<br />to the side at about 45 deg that indicate the<br />impeller is working) and indirect tell you the <br />cooling system probably is OK (but cooling <br />channel can be clogged somewhere even so and <br />thermostat not working or stuck even so - risk for<br />overheat then).<br /><br />>He said that the cyl. have 120# each.<br /><br />I do not know if that is a normal value for your<br />87' Suzuki 115.<br /><br />>What should I look for in the event that the <br />>engine won't start cause it's been sitting for<br />>such a long time? <br /><br />Thing I would check:<br />A. Whole chain from gasoline tank to carburators<br />- Open the airvent in fuel tank (easy to forget) <br />and also prime with the fuel rubber bulb <br />few times before trying to start (but the owner <br />should know this).<br />- Fueltank is clean inside.<br />- Fuelfilter and/or waterseparator (if any)<br />is clean.<br />- Fule line including connectors and fuel bulb<br />has no fault (rubber tend to rotten over time).<br />- At start use the choke (lever up) and primer<br />on control box(primer activate when you press <br />towards the controlbox at the same time you turn <br />black "start key", it is described in owners <br />manual).<br />- Do not use old gasoline, buy new.<br />- New spark plugs with right gap is also a good<br />thing to use.<br /><br />B. Carburators clean (hope someone with more <br />knowledge than me can tell how to clean them if <br />needed) including check that all rubber lines <br />that carry gasoline , around the carburators, is <br />not rotten.<br /><br />>This would be my first encounter with a suzuki <br />>autboard. Are these engines any good?<br /><br />I have a Suzuki 1991, a 65 HP (DT 65). It has <br />worked fine 3 years I had it. Last week I got <br />overheat warning but it is probably a thermostat <br />problem, I'm trying to sort that out.<br />I do not know how service availability is in your <br />area but to know the outboard can be serviced <br />quickly and professionally is probably rather <br />high on list of important things you should <br />consider before buy this outboard engine.<br /><br />If you actually buy this outboard and plan to do<br />some "light" maintenance yourself I suggest you<br />buy a Suzuki Manual (Clymer or Selco). I have <br />both for my outboard.<br />Also if you buy it: if it has been used in <br />saltwater the cooling channels and thermostat <br />should be checked so no salt build up in them.<br />And I would replace the impeller the first thing<br />since it is at least two years and to old.<br />Grease all greasepoints also.<br /><br />Gearcase oil - very important you check level<br />and no water or other pollution in it, best<br />if you change all gearcase oil, it should be<br />done every season anyway.<br /><br />Check the prop - I changed prop this year<br />and there is much less vibration now since there<br />is better balance in this new prop (I did not<br />know for sure with my old prop before I changed <br />to a new, the old was "worn" so I assumed a new<br />would be better).<br /><br />If it is a container with oil on the front on the <br />engine, that is used for automatic <br />oil-fuelmixture, make sure that oil is fresh.<br /><br />Electrical system: risk it in not so good shape<br />if boat and engine sat (outside?) for two years.<br />So maybe check over all electrical things you<br />can inspect with your eyes and make sure no "bad<br />contacts".<br /><br />The bad thing with (older) two stroke outboards<br />are that they drink much fuel and they are not so<br />environmently friendly but I try to help a little<br />by using outboard marine oil that is biological <br />decomposable (little more expensive).<br />The fuel itself is not so much to do about but I <br />hope acrylat fuel will be more widespread and <br />easier to buy (it is more expensive than ordinary <br />gasoline).<br />Also there is more noise at all rpm and it smell<br />little gasoline sometimes at lower rpm. A 4 stroke<br />outboard would take care of almost all these <br />problems but I can not afford one for the moment.<br />The good thing with a 2 stroke outboard is they <br />are not so heavy and have good power.<br /><br />I'm rather happy with my 1991 Suzuki DT 65.<br /><br />Hope it helps some. I'm sure I forgot many things<br />you should look for but use above as a starting<br />point.<br /><br />Good luck!
 
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