1976 15hp seahorse lost power

poppajack

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so, i bought a boat that had a 1976 johnson seahorse 15hp that the owner said had been put up in running condition about 5 years ago. it cranked after several tries, and had a rough idle with a little smoke, but both cylinders tested at about 65, so i decided to give it a try...
...replaced both plugs, both coils and plug wires, new intake fuel line to the fuel pump, new fuel pump, rebuilt the carb (with the help of a pro), but did not replace the fuel line between the pumb and the carb. the carb was very clean prior to the new parts, suggesting that it was put up in good condition. when the pro reset the high speed needle, his test tank run was so good that he did not pull the flywheel for the points and condensers. the old gear oil was good, but i drained it and refilled anyway...
so, at the lake the motor cranked and idled well, and the water pump pushed a spray from the pee-hole. off we went and it ran very well at both low speed and high speed without smoke or unusual noise. after 15 minutes of alternating between low speed and high speed, i ran it at full throttle for about 15 minutes, at which time it lost power to about 25% for about 10 minutes until i made the dock and reduced the throttle, then it stalled and would not hold idle upon restart.

again, no smoke, noise, or warning of the loss of power, so i don't think it is a problem beyond fuel or ignition. i'm using new external tank and bulbed line with non-ethanol fuel. squeezing the bulb during the problem did not change the status. i wonder, since i didn't replace the fuel line from the pump to the carb, would that have allowed for something to dislodge and partially block an opening in the carb, or is something else amiss? any opinion is welcomed...
 

oldcatamount

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Re: 1976 15hp seahorse lost power

a couple of things to check; one is the impeller, after sitting dry for that long, it's possible the impeller tore itself apart and caused an overheat issue. the other is the ignition coils which can shut down when they get warmed up causing one or both cylinders to stop firing.
 

Rick.

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Re: 1976 15hp seahorse lost power

That line could have dislodged some crap into the carb. Was the rope start about the same resistance right after it stalled? Oldcatamount is right about the impeller, it could be destroyed. Best thing is to check for spark while it's giving you trouble. Did it start back up once it was cooled down completely? Best of luck. Rick.
 

poppajack

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Re: 1976 15hp seahorse lost power

thanks old catamount and rick for the input, i'm a 1st-time outboard owner, so i'm open to experienced suggestions...
today i changed out the impeller, the old one was stiffened, but not otherwise damaged. it would have need to be replaced before long and i should have been done it when i was prepping the rest of the motor.
interesting that the replacement (new-sierra) water-pump housing plate hole-alignment did not match the lower unit hole-alignment, so i cleaned and used the old one. i also broke off one of the housing bolts going back in, so i was delayed by having to drill out the broken bolt shaft...
it barrel-test cranked quickly and blew good spray, so i put it in the lake, but unlike before, it never got to full power. it sprayed good water, so it seems that the impeller change was not the primary solution. so, i will test for spark and also change out the pump-to-carb fuel line tomorrow. on the spark, do you really think that a new coil would have gone bad so quickly? if so, is there something down-line that would have caused it to fail?
also, if debris dislodging from the fuel line into the carb is the primary cause for the power loss, is there a way to blow out the debris from the carb without removing the carb? it may pour back out with the fuel when the line is removed, but...

any other suggestions on causation?
 

the machinist

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Re: 1976 15hp seahorse lost power

You might check the points, if they are dirty/corroded or out of adjustment that could also be a problem.
 
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