1974 70 hp idle problems

Gitter-Dunn

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I have rebuilt the carbs (soaked them), checked compression 130 even. If you idle the motor @900 rpms it will idle, but put it in gear and it dies out slowly like it is to rich. It runs great above 1200 rpms all the way to 5400 rpms. I changed the low speed jets from 32s to 31s as I have a spare motor to steal parts from. Could it be reeds or have I missed soomething when I cleaned the carbs.
 

ob15

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Is the idle rpm you mention in the water or on muffs in your driveway?
 

Gitter-Dunn

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Everything is in the water, I never trust anything on the muffs. With no load it would run all day I believe as it will run for 10 seconds or so before it bogs out. <br />Thanks
 

ob15

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Just making sure. The pro's will be around shortly & get things figured out for you.
 

fireman57

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Did you use a rebuild kit or just soak and clean them. You may have an air leak in it. Are you sure it is rich and not leaning out at idle? Sounds like you may have missed something in a low speed jet. There is a post on setting your idle speed. Joe Reeves had it. Do you have a good manual?
 

Gitter-Dunn

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

I used Omc new kits when rebuilt and soaked them in carburator cleaner for 5 hrs. Maybe I have missed something on the cleaning. <br />Thanks<br />Flieman
 

Gitter-Dunn

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

I cannot stand to be beat so I took the carbs back apart and I believe one of the jets behind the drain bowl screw had trash in it. I assume that is the low speed jet and the one on the side of the carb bowl flange is the high speed. I have cleaned them out and will try it again. If I still have probs I will resoak the carbs and start over. Thanks
 

fireman57

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

If you still have problems stay with this thread and let everyone know.
 

Gitter-Dunn

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

I pulled the carbs off and went thru them again and it ran a bit better at idle but still not right. So I bought a 1978 70 to use the downhousing and power trim, the 74 powerhead is on that downhousing. I thought I would rebuild the carbs off that motor and did, they are different in the fact that they have a little tube in the middle of the venturi tube and have only 2 jets that I can find. One jet is the big jet in the bowl and the other is the air jet for idle, whereas the 74 carbs had a additional jet between the bowl and carb and no little tube in the venturi. Anyways I soaked the carbs and rebuilt them and they ran horrible, bogging out at all speeds except above 1700 they ran fine. I got scared of burning a piston so I resoaked my old carbs and went thru them again and it runs much better on the flusher but it got dark so I could not run it at the lake. I am now a 100% expert at taking carbs on and off a 3 cyl OMC. I will see tommorrow how it runs. If it does not run right then I have to say it will have to be another problem as I know the carbs are clean. Could it be either a fuel pump or reeds. The fuel pump I had ruled out because it ran good above 1200 but now I am thinking that if the diaprhams were bad they would not function well at low speed. I know nothing about reeds so do not know what they cause. I do no that with my original carbs and the boat on the trailer that at wide open throttle the carbs spit fuel out the front but the engine would only turn up 2400 on the trailer so I assumed that without rpms the carbs were dumping to much fuel for the engine to intake. I will follow up tommorrow with the results. Heres hoping for a good idle.
 

fireman57

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Practice makes perfect on carbs. I would check your fuel pump diaphragm for a pinhole, slight tear, or waviness.
 

Dhadley

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

We've seen this before and when we tell folks what we did to correct it, they don't believe it. Lets check a couple of things first. <br /><br />What spark plugs are you using? Is the fuel fresh and 87 octane?<br /><br />If you havent already, lets do a good de-carb before we proceed.
 

Gitter-Dunn

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

I am running ql77jc4 plugs that are new, brand new gas and I decarboned 2 times, unbelievable what came out of this motor. I bought this motor on a flounder boat last month and think it has had this problem for a while. It still does the same thing as I took it to the lake this morning. I really notice fuel spitting out the front of the carbs when I have left the boat on the trailer backed in the lake. It will turn up 2300 rpms wide open and runs smooth but spits fuel, maybe because it cannot devolp rpms on the trailer. Also the rough running starts exactly at 1500 rpms. Thanks very much for all the help so far.
 

Gitter-Dunn

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Also should I just put a new fuel pump on or rebuild the one I have. <br />Thanks
 

Gitter-Dunn

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Any ideas as I am stumped at this point. It still runs horrbile below 1200 rpms and great above. Thanks in advance.
 

BillP

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Re: 1974 70 hp idle problems

Did you blow the carb out with compressed air? It's hard to get bad stuff out by soaking.<br /><br />Have you pumped the primer bulb at low speed? The fuel pump may not be priming at low speed or is sucking air somewhere. You cannot always look at the diaphragm and tell if it is good. Just replace it.<br /><br />I recently had similar problems on a 70. I cleaned the carbs for general maintenance and didn't have new o-rings handy...actually the store clerk didn't put them in with the other gaskets! Since it ran bad AFTER the rebuild I got the new OEM o-rings and replaced them. The problem went away.
 
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