1970 60 hp johnson amplifier replacement or conversion

stp242

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project boat 16 ft terry citation bass boat 1970 60 hp johnson model 60dsl70d. hurricane katrina salvage special. boat almost finished except barnacle removal and fabbing steering. motor not immersed and appears not abused. paint lower unit still looks good. no salt water corrossion. turns over easy. compression good all three. no fire from coil. did the checks from seloc manual and it seems the amplifier is bad. is it possible to convert to newer pack or automotive type ignition. after buying new house furniture clothes not much left to spend on boat. just looking to make a fishing rig as cheap as possible. read the forums a lot and found lots of tips. thanks
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1970 60 hp johnson amplifier replacement or conversion

There are some members here who are knowledgeable about the ignition conversion... I am not. However, here's a test you can do pertaining to the pulsepack. And do not overlook the possibility that dirty corroded points may be your only problem.

(Point Setting Of Battery Capacitance Discharge
( Ignition Models - 1968 thru 1972)
(Joe Reeves)

The points must be set to .010 but no wider than .010..... BUT in some instances due to a possible slight inaccurately machined crankshaft lobe or a slight offset of one set of points, a setting slightly less than .010 would be required as follows.

Whether the crankshaft has two or three lobes, when setting the points, check the setting of the points on each individual lobe by rotating the crankshaft by hand.

You may find that setting one set of points to .010 on one lobe, then turning the crankshaft to the next lobe, the gap measures .011 or .012 (too wide). This is where you would need to close that gap down to the required .010. A gap too wide can result in a ignition miss when throttle is applied.

Bottom line, pertaining to the point setting at the various lobe locations____ .010, .010, .009, is okay____ .010, .010, .011 is not!

(Battery Capacitance Dischage Powerpack Test)
Various OMC Engines - 1968 to 1972)
(J. Reeves)

Purchase a small 12v bulb at your local automotive parts store (the 12v bulb is to look like a flashlight bulb, not a headlight bulb). Solder two wires to that bulb, one to the side of the bulb (ground), and the other to the positive point. You might use a bulb of a somewhat lower voltage to obtain a brighter glow... just a suggestion.

Remove the spark plugs. With the key in the on position, make sure that you have 12v going to the pack at the terminal block (purple wire). Now, connect the ground wire from the bulb to any powerhead ground. Connect the wire from the positive point of that bulb to the powerpack wire that is connected to the coil wire on the terminal board (blue wire).

Crank the engine and observe that bulb closely (CLOSELY!). If that bulb glows even the slightest bit, the powerpack is okay. It may be a very dim glow... just so it glows! If it doesn't glow, the pack has failed.

Keep in mind, that type powerpack (Battery Capacitance Discharge) demands a top notch battery of at least 70 amp hours. Any less will, in time, cause powerpack failure.

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stp242

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Re: 1970 60 hp johnson amplifier replacement or conversion

Thanks Joe. I ll do your test as soon as I get a flywheel puller. Also found a lot of info on conversion in threads. One way or another I ll fix it.
 

casi77

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Re: 1970 60 hp johnson amplifier replacement or conversion

hi, do you have links to the threads you can post? im looking to convert a 68 55hp as well.. its got the motorola amp box. thanks
 

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Re: 1970 60 hp johnson amplifier replacement or conversion

There was a service bulletin concerning accurately setting the point gap. There is a detent on the points adjustment screw that clicks as you turn it. The procedure involves screwing the adjustment in till the points make contact (ohmmeter), then back it out till they just do break contact, then continue to back it out a specified number of clicks. Since the screw thread pitch is constant and reliable, it is a very accurate method. Now, trouble is I don't remember how many clicks to back it out. Does anybody here remember and know?
 

stp242

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Re: 1970 60 hp johnson amplifier replacement or conversion

ref conversion threads. Do search cd ignition conversion. scan thru them and you ll find a lot .
 
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