1960s Evinrude Lightwin 3HP. Starts but will not run :(

morten0

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Hi :) Thanks for looking.

I have a problem with my old Evinrude Lightwin engine. I was hoping that somebody here would know what was wrong with it.
It has 3Hp and is from early 1960s.

The problem I have is that it will not run. I have just changed coils on it and emptied the gastank. New gasoline on the tank and there are a lot of sparks on the sparkplugs now.
If I unscrew the plugs and but some gasoline in the holes it starts after 4 to 5 pulls. Every time. But it will not run. It dies out after just 1 second.
I have tried this over and over again.

I unscrew the copper pipe that goes down to the carburator, just to see if gasoline was flowing down, and it did. What happens after the copper pipe, that I do not know.

The engine has not been started for probably 5 years or so.

Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

Excuse my english, I'm from Norway.
Thanks in advance.
Have a nice day.:)
 

lindy46

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Re: 1960s Evinrude Lightwin 3HP. Starts but will not run :(

Probably needs a carb cleaning/rebuilding. Sounds like fuel is not getting through the carb.
 

1946Zephyr

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Re: 1960s Evinrude Lightwin 3HP. Starts but will not run :(

I still think you might have a fuel flow problem through the fuel line. It should be thouroghly cleaned out. Make sure your low speed is set at 1 1/2 turns out and your high speed is 3/4.
 

morten0

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Re: 1960s Evinrude Lightwin 3HP. Starts but will not run :(

Hi. Thanks for quick replies.

I will have a look at the fuel line again. And try some more to get it running.

If that doesn't help I will look at the carburator. I have looked at how it is done online. It looks a bit tricky.


:)
 

kfa4303

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Re: 1960s Evinrude Lightwin 3HP. Starts but will not run :(

Hi morten0. It's not that bad really. Just go slow and you'll be fine. You can get the rebuild kit right here at iboats for about $20. Here are some links that may help too. They may not be for the exact same model as yours, but the basic premise is the same. You're essentially just thoroughly cleaning the carb body and replacing a few gaskets when you "rebuild" the carb. The kit should come with instructions as well. Good luck. Keep us posted.


http://www.outboard-boat-motor-repa...hnson 5.5 HP 1954-1964 Carburetor Tune-UP.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/07/columns/max/index1.htm
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=167352
 

morten0

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Re: 1960s Evinrude Lightwin 3HP. Starts but will not run :(

Hi.

Thanks for the kind words, and good links. I will have a closer look at this weekend. And hopefully, something good will come out of that, hehe.

Have a nice day :)
Morten
 

cajuncook1

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Re: 1960s Evinrude Lightwin 3HP. Starts but will not run :(

Hey morten0, please post your model and serial number so better guidance can be given to fuel oil ratio and a correct parts diagram for your motor.

http://www.outboard-boat-motor-repair.com/Evinrude 3 HP Lightwin Outboard Boat Motor/default.htm

Even though you changed the coils, you still need to verify spark with a spark checker.

A carburetor clean with a kit with an updated ethanol resistant float is probably in order as well.

Couple of things you need to check.

compression, spark and carburetor.

Here is a link how to check your compression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCw4SiuT2I&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA635C5DC29577639


Here is couple of diagrams to assist you with checking out your ignition system.


Here is a diagram of a generic OMC (Johnson/Evinrudle/Gale) ignition assembly. You will have to remove the coil designated for the top cylinder and put the oil wicker in. It should be already be coated with a very light oil. (not grease). The purpose of the oil wicker is to lightly lubricate the outside riding surface of the cam so the point shoes do not prematurely wear. If you look at the points they have little shoes that ride along the cam. Please make sure the (breaker)points cam is on the correct side or the ignition will be out of timing. It should have the word [highlight]top[/highlight] machine written on the side facing up.

Ignitionplateandoilwick.jpg


FYI: You can only set(gap) one set of points at a time. Put the flywheel nut back on(turn with a wrench or ratchet clockwise) to allow you turn the crankshaft. (Please remove both spark plugs to make it easier to turn the crankshaft and prevent accidental starting)

You gap the point to 0.020 when the point shoes is at the top(high point of the cam). It should have a mark along with the word top. Then you will turn clockwise to the next set of point 180 degrees and set those points the same way. You will notice that the point of the previous set will be closed and when you come around again they will open up. *** When they are open no current is allow through. This is how you set your timing with the points.***

When you go to set the point's gap. Very gently snug the anchor screw, then adjust the gap with adjusting screw and the feeler gauge until the feeler gauge is sliding through with slight resistance only. Then tighten the anchor screw. Repeat procedure with second set of points. Please make sure your hands are clean and the feeler gauge is clean, because oil on the points can foul them up and create resistance....poor or no no spark. ALways use a spark check to evaluate spark. It should jump minimum 1/4 inch. Blue sharp snappy spark.

Here is a picture of a spark check...Cheap $6

sparktesterpic.jpg



Here is a picture of how to tell which wire is going to the correct cylinder. Thanks to Garry for providing the picture on other post ;)


TopCyl.jpg



If your using the existing wires then cut about 1/4 inch of end going the coil, so you have clean un-oxidized copper contacting the spiking in the coil. Twist the end of the spark plug wire onto the coil spike. If you have replaced the wires, make sure they are 7mm copper metal core and not the automobile stuff.

***** Please make sure two things*****

1.) Make sure all the wires are tucked away under the flywheel and not rubbing up against the cam or crank, because with will eventually get damage and create a short, then no spark!!

2.) Make sure the coil heels (ends) are evenly lined up with the mounting boss.

Here are some pictures. (Compliments of JBJennings..nice fella)

wrongcoilmount.jpg


rightwaytomountcoil.jpg


Lining up the coil heel with the mounting boss prevent damage of the coils and the flywheel magnet, prevent rubbing as the flywheel turns.

[highlight]*** Make sure the throttle is advanced to that start position***[/highlight]






Good luck, hope this helps you along!!
 
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