18ft Lund 50F Yamaha Prop???

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I have just purchased a 50 hsp 4 stroke Yamaha to put on a light weight Lund. 20 years old and stripped of floataion and extras. Perhaps 600-700lbs.<br /> I will be shipping to bush Alaska and will not have the liberty to exchange props very easily. I would like two possibly three props for my applications. <br /><br />Prop #1<br />One for a light load. Perhaps one passenger and very little gear and gas. Speed is the desire here. <br />Dealer though maybe a 10 by 15 but couldn't say for sure<br /><br />Next Prop # 2 For my family of 5, Wife and three small children. 3,4,7-455 lbs total. and 10 gallons of gas and 100 lbs of gear max.<br />Looking like about 1300 lbs<br />Most used prop.<br />Dealer suggested 10 1/4 by 14<br /><br />#3<br />A big load. Family camp and a moose.<br />2200 2500 gross lbs gross approx<br /><br />Dealer suggested 11 5/8 by 11<br /><br />Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 

steelespike

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Re: 18ft Lund 50F Yamaha Prop???

First suggestion dont take your family out in<br />a boat with no flotation.<br /> Dont put the 50 on the boat if its not rated for it.<br /> That said,try the Michigan wheel site at:<br /> www.michiganwheel.com not sure what info is there.<br /> Be careful.
 

Forktail

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Re: 18ft Lund 50F Yamaha Prop???

Steelespike, I am an advocate of safety too, but there are unique situations here in Alaska and the Yukon where things can't always go by the book. For example, there are branches hunted on the mighty Yukon River which are extremely shallow, narrow, and inhospitable. They are only accessable by boat and over 1,000 miles from civilization. This requires a small boat with good power that can haul much gear and fuel. Many boats travel these waters, and every one of them is homemade or modified for the conditions. I highly doubt you will find hp ratings or factory floatation on these boats. We hunt with a homemade fiberglass over plywood Carolina Skiff looking thing with twin commercial outboards and a spare on deck. Because of the conditions we usually come home with two of the three outboards needing repair. We bring 6 55 gallon drums of gasoline and can haul 3 70+" moose and all gear for a month. Hp ratings? Can't have enough. Coast Gaurd approved floatation? Where do you put it? I do wear a life jacket, but the chances of survival in these remote areas are probably zero.<br /><br />Now, on to props. The 4-stroke T-50 is a high-thrust and has a larger gear case than the 2-stroke 50. It has a high 2.33 gear reduction. So 10" and 11" diameter props will not work. I think your dealer is mistaken. The best way to prop your boat is with a tachometer and a speedometer. Your engine must maintain between 5,000 and 6,000 rpm.<br /><br />For the light load, I would suggest a 13 3/4" diameter by 15" pitch. You might get more speed out of a 13 1/4" by 17 if you can keep the rpms up.<br /><br />The 13 3/4" by 15" would probably work for your all-round use, but a 13 1/4" by 15 would help with the added load.<br /><br />For the heavy load, I would use the smallest diameter 13 pitch prop available. Say a 13 5/8" by 13. I don't think you can drop below a 13 pitch prop with the T-50. <br /><br />Good luck, and like Steelespike said, be careful.
 

Yukon_Traveler

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Re: 18ft Lund 50F Yamaha Prop???

After 17 years in Bush Alaska on the Yukon I have to aggree with all said forktail. It just isn't the normal situation. On the river with life jackets the shore is my best bet. We usually travel pretty close to it. I have used a 35 hsp Nissan for 15 years on the boat but thought I would upgrade. The floatation was so water logged it wasn't doing much so it went away. <br />I believe the infomation you gave on the props however does not apply to the F 50. The catalog does not show any of your diameter props as an option. It is an F 50 not a T 50. Thanks though. <br />Any more suggestion.
 

ivar

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Re: 18ft Lund 50F Yamaha Prop???

Hi,<br />Here's an answer from another remote area (Spitzbergen , Norway)<br /><br />The non- highthrust F-50 can take propellers up to 12" in diam., and you can get them with as low pitch as 9" , going up to 17"<br />However, with boats around 16ft weighing around 6-700lbs a 11 3/8 x 13 or 11 3/8 x 14 is recommended. For your "light" application maybe you can get away with a 15" but I think the 14" would be the better choice. <br />For the medium load , maybe something like 11 1/2x12.<br />From what your dealer suggested , I would go up on diameter and down on pitch to get more thrust and less slip. Those props with 10 inch diams is better suited to the older 2-stoke 40/50hp's.<br /> <br />Not sure what prop you might need for your "heavy duty application" , but when running rivers with lots of rocks it sounds like one or two props in spare won't hurt. Remember you also have some alternatives to the OEM yamaha props at roughly half the price (like Solas and Michigan , and the replaceable-blade comprop)<br /><br />The F-50 has good low end torque and I'm sure you will be happy with it. The noise levels and fuel consumption is a completely different world than you old trusty Nissan. <br /><br />If you have more q's feel free to answer , I hope I can be of any help.<br />---<br />ivar
 

Forktail

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Re: 18ft Lund 50F Yamaha Prop???

Sorry Yuke, I thought it was the high thrust.<br /><br />The F50 can take 11, 12, 13, and 14 pitch props.<br /><br />Michigan makes a 10 5/8" X 12" cupped prop that would work good for your load. They even have a 12" X 11" pitch. Their 11 1/2 X 13 or 11 1/4 X 14 would be your light load speed prop.<br /><br /> :)
 

ivar

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Re: 18ft Lund 50F Yamaha Prop???

I agree with Forktail , try a 12" as your "general purpose" prop , see how it works and go from there.<br /><br />Forktail:<br />Just curious, you seem to know your stuff :) ,<br />why do you recommend a smaller diam. prop for the heavier load than for the "light load" <br /><br />I currently have a 14" fiberglass boat weighing around 700lbs empty, with a Yam F40. Currently running the 11-1/8x13" that came with the engine. It works very well with 2 or 3 persons aboard but I need a lower pitch prop for those days when I load the boat down with gas and hunting gear. Was considering a 11-3/8x12 , but maybe I should go for a lower diam. prop instead?
 
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